• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Why can't characters be assigned a 5-C tier without calculations?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Spilxson2

4,679
1,140
The Attack Potency page says that characters can be assigned 5-B, 4-C, 4-B, 4-A, 3-C and 3-B tiers without calculations if they've been shown to or have been stated to be capable of "destroying the earth" or "destroying the sun". But why can't a character automatically be given a 5-C rating for destroying the moon? Shouldn't a character also be able to have a 5-A rating if they have a feat/statement of being able to destroy Jupiter or multiple planets in our solar system at once?
 
Spilxson2 said:
The Attack Potency page says that characters can be assigned 5-B, 4-C, 4-B, 4-A, 3-C and 3-B tiers without calculations if they've been shown to or have been stated to be capable of "destroying the earth" or "destroying the sun". But why can't a character automatically be given a 5-C rating for destroying the moon? Shouldn't a character also be able to have a 5-A rating if they have a feat/statement of being able to destroy Jupiter or multiple planets in our solar system at once?
Click to expand...
Agree with you
 
Spilxson2 said:
The Attack Potency page says that characters can be assigned 5-B, 4-C, 4-B, 4-A, 3-C and 3-B tiers without calculations if they've been shown to or have been stated to be capable of "destroying the earth" or "destroying the sun". But why can't a character automatically be given a 5-C rating for destroying the moon? Shouldn't a character also be able to have a 5-A rating if they have a feat/statement of being able to destroy Jupiter or multiple planets in our solar system at once?
Click to expand...
I agree they should be given 5-C without calculations if they destroy The Moon, but it has to be Earth’s moon. Moons can vary massively in size to the point of infiltrating other tiers, so if it is a moon other than our own it has to be calculated to determine if it is of appropriate size for the 5-C tier.
 
KLOL506 said:
By default when it comes to blowing up moons or planets we assume the size of our Earth or our moon as a default, unless specified.
Click to expand...
Well I meant our moon as in how tiers without calculations have feats of destroying "the earth" or "the sun"
 
Spilxson2 said:
Well I meant our moon as in how tiers without calculations have feats of destroying "the earth" or "the sun"
Click to expand...
Well that depends on how violently they were destroyed. Depending on how fast the debris moves, it could go as far as High 5-A. Otherwise, it's just baseline 5-C, 1.24E+29 J (GBE of our Moon).

In most cases where we have no cinematic timeframe to rely upon, blowing up the Earth is just... baseline 5-B, 2.49E+32 J (GBE of the Earth). Blowing up the Sun normally is 4-C, 5.693E+41 J (GBE of the Sun).
 
KLOL506 said:
Well that depends on how violently they were destroyed. Depending on how fast the debris moves, it could go as far as High 5-A. Otherwise, it's just baseline 5-C, 1.24E+29 J (GBE of our Moon).

In most cases where we have no cinematic timeframe to rely upon, blowing up the Earth is just... baseline 5-B, 2.49E+32 J (GBE of the Earth). Blowing up the Sun normally is 4-C, 5.693E+41 J (GBE of the Sun).
Click to expand...
So shouldn't characters who have statements or feats of destroying the moon be able to just get the baseline 5-C rating? Characters like The Annoying Orange and SCP-2117 were given 5-C ratings just for those feats alone even though there weren't any calculations for it
 
KLOL506 said:
That's literally the standard procedure for such feats.
Click to expand...
As OP mentioned, that is contradicted by what is said on the Attack Potency page:

“Tiers between 9-A and 3-B, even those which do correspond with their namesakes, should not be assigned unless there are accepted calculations, multipliers, and/or reliably stated precise Joule values that correspond with those ratings, as many verses can have their own context result in these feats being above or below their namesakes. The exceptions are that the lower borders of 5-B, 4-C, 4-B, 4-A, 3-C, and 3-B can be considered standard calculations for destroying a planet, a star, a solar system, two or more solar systems, a galaxy, and two or more galaxies respectively, and adding those tiers based on those specific feats is allowed.”
 
A minor edit should fix this.

"Tiers between 9-A and 3-B, even those which do correspond with their namesakes, should not be assigned unless there are accepted calculations, multipliers, and/or reliably stated precise Joule values that correspond with those ratings, as many verses can have their own context result in these feats being above or below their namesakes. The exceptions are that the lower borders of 5-C, Low 5-B, 5-B, 5-A, High 5-A, 4-C, 4-B, 4-A, 3-C, and 3-B can be considered standard calculations for destroying a moon, a small planet, a planet, a large planet, a dwarf star, a star, a solar system, two or more solar systems, a galaxy, and two or more galaxies respectively, and adding those tiers based on those specific feats is allowed."

@DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @LordGriffin1000 @Maverick_Zero_X @Dereck03 Do you find this acceptable?
 
KLOL506 said:
A minor edit should fix this.

"Tiers between 9-A and 3-B, even those which do correspond with their namesakes, should not be assigned unless there are accepted calculations, multipliers, and/or reliably stated precise Joule values that correspond with those ratings, as many verses can have their own context result in these feats being above or below their namesakes. The exceptions are that the lower borders of 5-C, Low 5-B, 5-B, 5-A, High 5-A, 4-C, 4-B, 4-A, 3-C, and 3-B can be considered standard calculations for destroying a moon, a small planet, a planet, a large planet, a dwarf star, a star, a solar system, two or more solar systems, a galaxy, and two or more galaxies respectively, and adding those tiers based on those specific feats is allowed."

@DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @LordGriffin1000 @Maverick_Zero_X @Dereck03 Do you find this acceptable?
Click to expand...
Sounds perfect.
 
KLOL506 said:
A minor edit should fix this.

"Tiers between 9-A and 3-B, even those which do correspond with their namesakes, should not be assigned unless there are accepted calculations, multipliers, and/or reliably stated precise Joule values that correspond with those ratings, as many verses can have their own context result in these feats being above or below their namesakes. The exceptions are that the lower borders of 5-C, Low 5-B, 5-B, 5-A, High 5-A, 4-C, 4-B, 4-A, 3-C, and 3-B can be considered standard calculations for destroying a moon, a small planet, a planet, a large planet, a dwarf star, a star, a solar system, two or more solar systems, a galaxy, and two or more galaxies respectively, and adding those tiers based on those specific feats is allowed."

@DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @LordGriffin1000 @Maverick_Zero_X @Dereck03 Do you find this acceptable?
Click to expand...
Fine with me.
 
I think that this seems fine to apply, but these types of policy revision threads should be posted in our staff forum, so I will move this thread to there.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Reiner04
Attack potency page minor fix/inclusion
Replies
3
Views
664
KLOL506
KLOL506
Epyriel
  • Locked
Tier 5 Revision
5 6 7
Replies
243
Views
23K
Antvasima
Antvasima
IGunProFan2341
1 low-end 7-A Character vs 600+ low-end High 7-C characters
Replies
2
Views
329
IGunProFan2341
IGunProFan2341
Lloydblitzed
Can 4-C characters absorb 2-C characters powers?
Replies
4
Views
792
Noes
Noes
Joshyyy_64
Lucifero Gets AP Upgrades
Replies
22
Views
1K
Testarossa002
Testarossa002
Back
Top