Why atomic X doesn’t scale alien x upgrades

[Gohanblanco217]

Welp guess I was wrong

As always

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Alien X says hi

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Assuming that this isn't obvious, not only your arguments makes 0 sense but also the fact that Maltruant got one shot by the Annihilaargh (ignoring also that most of it's energy was absorbed by Feedback ) already debunk your whole argument

Wait a sec. Wasn’t Maltruant’s Annihilargh amped by a star core? Also Feedback usually amplifies the energy he absorbs, as shown against ultimate Humungousaur. He one shots him after absorbing his energy. Also that unbreakable barrier just turns off after Feedback gets control over the Annihilargh’s energy, while a regular Annihilargh can’t do anything to it. When Maktruant got hit by his Annihilargh he wasn’t completely destroyed and his parts were still intact for repairs. If he was far lower than anything universal then he would’ve been reduced to atoms.
One more thing. The Omnitrix was cycling through all the aliens supposedly because they couldn’t handle the energy of the Annihilargh. One of those Aliens was Alien X, which seems to imply that this Annihilargh is indeed amplified.

 

[Greenshifter]

Also that unbreakable barrier just turns off after Feedback gets control over the Annihilargh’s energy,

... I don't think that's got anything to do with Feedback...

as shown against ultimate Humungousaur. He one shots him after absorbing his energy.

Didn't he just dura neg him with internal electricity?

Wasn’t Maltruant’s Annihilargh amped by a star core?

I think it needed the core to have power at all (comparable to a regular Annihilaargh) since it's the same Annihilaargh that went off and Ben broke afterwards, although you could argue otherwise depending on how it functions and how Alien X recreated it.

One of those Aliens was Alien X, which seems to imply that this Annihilargh is indeed amplified.

The Omnitrix also cycles through the best possible options to do what Ben wants to do, which isn't just not die in this case (but rather save the multiverse), Alien X's LS might have not been able to contain it and the Omnitrix realized that it was too big a risk to let Ben (as Alien X) either try to contain it another way (since he'd lose time thinking potentially) with his hax or potentially have to debate the personalities (or it's just not fully aware of his capabilities).

When Maktruant got hit by his Annihilargh he wasn’t completely destroyed and his parts were still intact for repairs. If he was far lower than anything universal then he would’ve been reduced to atoms.

You have a point although if it negates durability via warping space-time then this isn't necessarily the case I think.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Although they can be interpreted differently, I think I got my point across.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Wait a sec. Wasn’t Maltruant’s Annihilargh amped by a star core?

No since when?

Also Feedback usually amplifies the energy he absorbs, as shown against ultimate Humungousaur.

Okay and?

Also that unbreakable barrier just turns off after Feedback gets control over the Annihilargh’s energy, while a regular Annihilargh can’t do anything to it.

Wtf does this has anything to do with Feedback or the Annihilaargh?

When Maktruant got hit by his Annihilargh he wasn’t completely destroyed and his parts were still intact for repairs.

Because that was due to bad animation/writing?

The Omnitrix was cycling through all the aliens supposedly because they couldn’t handle the energy of the Annihilargh. One of those Aliens was Alien X, which seems to imply that this Annihilargh is indeed amplified.

No? That scene was just too vague and it can be interpreted differently, it could just be that the Omnitrix was running shit out energy and so it tried to take the best Alien for the situation or Alien x being there could simply be an inconsistency/PIS , the Anihilaarg is simply a device used to create and destroy a baseline space-time continuum which is something that Alien x already dealt with

 

[Greenshifter]

No since when?

Maltruant used the dwarf star core that he stole from Plumbers HQ in the future in the second to final episode, to charge the Annihilaargh.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Maltruant used the dwarf star core that he stole from Plumbers HQ in the future in the second to final episode, to charge the Annihilaargh.

Don't recall this happening..

 

[Greenshifter]

Although they can be interpreted differently, I think I got my point across.

In a sense you did, Maltruant not getting atomized means that either the Annihilaargh isn’t an anti-feat because it ignores durability or he scales to it. The other stuff not so much.

That said Kevin’s absorption works different from Biomnitrix fusion (for instance Osmosians would have to deal with different personalities upon absorbing an adult Celestialsapien, while Atomic-X doesn’t seem to have to deal with them + Kevin can choose his physiology/how he looks to an extent) and you forgot one detail when it comes to DNA in Ben 10...

 

[Greenshifter]

Don't recall this happening..

Watch the episode

 

[Greenshifter]

Practically all DNA in the universe originates from slimebiotes as they gather, carry, mix, and deposit DNA across a growing universe for eons.

Since Celestialsapiens still fall under inter-galactic law, it is reasonable to assume they originated from within the universe and that they afterwards moved to the forge which Paradox hid with his barrier. It would also explain how Azmuth got access to Celestialsapien DNA.

This means that slight variances and mixings of DNA created a species that has 4D powers, yet Atomic-X is created by yet another mixing of DNA, it being logical that it wouldn’t give the same result as one of it’s parent species but something else instead.

In short everyone who argues that a fusion with an alien with 4D power would also create another alien with 4D power, is advocating for low 2-C Ben 10 in it’s entirety, since Celestialsapiens exist as a fusion of several other alien species’ DNA (and potentially other alien species’ are also created with CS DNA in the mix).

 

[Antvasima]

I was asked to close this thread. Is that acceptable?

 

[Greenshifter]

I'd wait for Zamasu to respond.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

I'd wait for Zamasu to respond.

There is no point of doing that, the OP question has already been answered and this is enough.

Close the thread Ant

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.