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Which character you thought would be badass in there verses but was just a joke? Even if it's not the mc

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Mine is Buggy when i first watch one piece back when i was like 5 or 6 or 7 smth i thought he would be strong but turned out be not
 
Krillin this guy his destructo disk I thought it was gonna kill Cell forever and he can't heal from it in all honesty I got the greatest disappointment of my life
 
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I will never forget Krillin. I thought he was not too strong but he has an op attack to back him up now he's useless.
 
Another big disappointment with Baki that I just remembered, which, personally, is almost as big as Ali Jr.'s:

The Kaiohs and the Kaioh champions in general, aside from Kaku, Retsu, Dorian and Shobun Ron, were all extremely unsatisfying. In fact, they still disappointed a bit in Shobun Ron: I'm not even mad that he was defeated by Oliva rather handily, as the reasoning made sense and it was one of the few awesome fights of the tournament, but they completely forgot him and he had one of the coolest fighting styles in Baki.

I really, really wish he appeared a few more times.
 
wtf? i only watched the anime, you're telling me all those guys never come back? that's ****** up

Anyway no more heroes does this a stupid amount, you have like, at least twenty characters throughout the games get sucker-punched or snuck up on or just stomped right before you can fight them, and then whoever killed them takes their place.

I'm not exaggerating, letz shake gets sliced in half by henry, dark star gets punched through the crotch by jeane, in a ffa 12 assassins are killed by dr. letz shake before you fight him, henry kills three assassins once he awakens from his coma thinking he's doing you a favor, black night direction gets beheaded from behind by native dancer, vanishing point gets stomped by kimmy, velvet chair girl kills herself with acid before the actual fight, sniping lee is blown up by notorious and the main bad guy is so pissed off that he just kinda kills his second-in command paradox bandit out of nowhere. Of course most of them don't have any substance to them and the replacements are usually better so, no biggie

That's 22 bosses that the games build up to (some more some less) and that just get killed anticlimactically lmao. The spinoff game even does this with a level, which turns out to be in beta and just two rooms long. Oh, and another one of those levels gets replaced by a surprise one so you can count that too
 
Gohan, compared to the relevant characters he literally cannot do anything.

Ik that he has a family to tend to and he isn't like Goku who has not many qualms about leaving his family to go train but after the random absurd power up he got in like one day for the T.O.P, you'd assume he would keep it up and train to catch up to Goku and Vegeta, and like, actually make proper progress.
 
King from One Punch Man, don't get me wrong he has a weird luck/reality hax in which he can cut an apple beyond cellular levels without moving. But when I saw that King Engine in season 2, I was so hyped then I found out he was weak(physically)...
 
Sienna Kahn: (Back when I still cared about RWBY) Awesome design, had some build up and boom she just gets killed off by Adam in her debut apperance episode. Also we had to wait until the Volume 6 preview in an Adam flashback to see her in action and rely on external sources to discover her semblance. She ended up as wasted joke just like the White Fang subplot but everyone and their grandmother knows that already.

Bastion Misawa: He's introduced as an intelligent and strategic duelist, gets major screen time in the YGO GX intro and the show quickly establishes him as a powerful rival character for Jaden (potentially a tritagonist) after he aces his entrance exam to duel academy then proceeds to beat Chazz in a duel (even after Chazz try to sabotage him). So what happens when Bastion inevitably loses to a YGO MC? He becomes a joke ofc.

He gets beaten as well as humiliated by an Amazonian dominatrix (S1), Gets brainwashed by a cult (S2), Needs not Albert Einstein to knock some sense into him then when Bastion comes to his senses his strips naked runs out of the school building and doesn't appear for the rest of the season (I wish I was making this up) eventually he gets replaced by a dinosaur as Jaden's "friend rival" and the cherry on top he never gets to use Fire Dragon in any duel (desipte the GX intro showing Bastion summoning it alongside Water Dragon). He went from analytical rival character to jobber support cast.

Infinite the Jackal: By far one the biggest jokes of a villain in the Sonic franchise (yes this includes Zavok). He is introduced with this mysterious vibe, an articulate voice and the first thing we see him do in Forces is "beat" Sonic (establishing his threat level) yet if you scratch just beneath the surface he's just a shallow clown.

His motivations are based on salt for losing to Shadow while being called "weak", He consistently remains arrogant even when he gets beaten up, He shows zero interest on what happened to his squad (It's implied Shadow killed them btw), It's discovered he's literally nothing without the McGuffin of the week (Phantom Ruby) btw he never uses the real thing just a powerful imitation and it all ends with him being defeated by Base Sonic (who spent half a year sitting around twiddling his thumbs) working with an OC with a gun (also the JP version implies Infinite dies with him screaming out in pain then vanishing, so theres that I guess?).

There were so many theories about Infinite from him being Eggman's own attempt to create an "ultimate lifeform" to the Avatar character being Infinite's friend trying to save him (Avatar = Tails, Infinite = Sonic) but in reality we got wasted potential and a joke... (He literally creates a mini sun only for the Avatar to get rid of it like it was nothing in the next scene).
Oh boy y'all been warned.
 
SemiRaedi said:
Gohan, compared to the relevant characters he literally cannot do anything.

Ik that he has a family to tend to and he isn't like Goku who has not many qualms about leaving his family to go train but after the random absurd power up he got in like one day for the T.O.P, you'd assume he would keep it up and train to catch up to Goku and Vegeta, and like, actually make proper progress.
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Gohan has reasons for not being strong despite having potential, one of them is just not liking to fight, the dude just wanna sit at home reading books not train and get stronger, he can and will fight when needed but just doesn't like to fight, which is actually pretty interesting and better than being a fight loving maniac like his father, save that role for goten.
 
Dante Zogratis from black clover, don't get me wrong i love dante and he is super entertaing every time he is on screen but the guy only takes l's, to progressively weaker people as a matter of fact
Crocodile, cool power and design but got beaten by an early series main chatacter and his biggest asset can be negged by throwing water or blood at the guy like really intangibilitt is the best thing about logia and his can be negged by bleeding?, croco is such a joke that oda created doflamingo who is just crocodile but stronger and more interesting
God Serena, do i need to explain?
Also Kei from Future card Budyyfight but he is so bad he becomes good
 
EliminatorVenom said:
Another big disappointment with Baki that I just remembered, which, personally, is almost as big as Ali Jr.'s:

The Kaiohs and the Kaioh champions in general, aside from Kaku, Retsu, Dorian and Shobun Ron, were all extremely unsatisfying. In fact, they still disappointed a bit in Shobun Ron: I'm not even mad that he was defeated by Oliva rather handily, as the reasoning made sense and it was one of the few awesome fights of the tournament, but they completely forgot him and he had one of the coolest fighting styles in Baki.

I really, really wish he appeared a few more times.
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My disappointment in Baki is the fact that Japan is overwhelmingly stronger than every other country combined.

I have no issue with them having the strongest guys its just how far behind most of the world is.
 
PsychoWarper said:
My disappointment in Baki is the fact that Japan is overwhelmingly stronger than every other country combined.

I have no issue with them having the strongest guys its just how far behind most of the world is.
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Basically every other character is just a punching bag for baki and yujiro to get them stronger
 
The vast majority of the verses top tiers are Japanese, how the Japanese havn’t conquered the world is beyond me.
 
PsychoWarper said:
My disappointment in Baki is the fact that Japan is overwhelmingly stronger than every other country combined.

I have no issue with them having the strongest guys its just how far behind most of the world is.
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Oh that isn't just a Baki thing pretty much every anime/manga thats set in the "real" world (usually an idolized versions of it) Japan is always top dog: Beyblade, Inazuma Eleven, MHA, etc, The MC and their social circle are always above (most of) the rest of the world by a fair margin. Its pretty much culture appropriation at this point (which is fine), I mean just look at DC with the JLA, most of Earth's heroes get nowhere near as much shine or powerboosts (in universe) if they're not part of the JLA.

It's a pretty interesting topic tbh, that affects many aspects of life including Vs debating (it's all about the geography and target demographic).
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Oh that isn't just a Baki thing pretty much every anime/manga thats set in the "real" world (usually an idolized versions of it) Japan is always top dog: Beyblade, Inazuma Eleven, MHA, etc, The MC and their social circle are always above (most of) the rest of the world by a fair margin. Its pretty much culture appropriation at this point (which is fine), I mean just look at DC with the JLA, most of Earth's heroes get nowhere near as much shine or powerboosts (in universe) if they're not part of the JLA.

It's a pretty interesting topic tbh, that affects many aspects of life including Vs debating (it's all about the geography and target demographic).
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Fair, but alot of other series I havnt noticed to give as much attention to the other countries as Baki has.

Like most of them barely talk about the other places but Baki has shown those other places plenty of times as well as people from them.
 
God Serena (Fairy Tail)
Ikkaku (Bleach)
Sado (Bleach)
Judar (Magi) (I REALLY wanted to see him fight in the manga alot more but he didn't really do much.. Hakuryuu is WAYY cooler)
Iwabe (Boruto) (I thought he'd be what Kawaki is now, or something like him. But now he's fodder and irrelevant.)
 
NomsNoms said:
God Serena (Fairy Tail)
Ikkaku (Bleach)
Sado (Bleach)
Judar (Magi) (I REALLY wanted to see him fight in the manga alot more but he didn't really do much.. Hakuryuu is WAYY cooler)
Iwabe (Boruto) (I thought he'd be what Kawaki is now, or something like him. But now he's fodder and irrelevant.)
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Definitely agree with the first one, he was a literal joke.
 
PsychoWarper said:
My disappointment in Baki is the fact that Japan is overwhelmingly stronger than every other country combined.

I have no issue with them having the strongest guys its just how far behind most of the world is.
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That's true, but to be honest, it's just like how others said here: That's very common of japanese media.

While Baki is quite blatant with that, true, there are other similar franchises. Drifters is the worst offender of this that I've seen: Katanas were considered so high technology that the dwarves of a fantasy world, that could make guns and weaponry far beyond what would be applicable to feudal Japan, can't replicate the sword making process of a katana.

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wtf? i only watched the anime, you're telling me all those guys never come back? that's ****** up
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Yeah. Kaku, Dorian and Retsu do, of course, but everyone else is... pretty much forgotten.
Armorchompy said:
That's 22 bosses that the games build up to (some more some less) and that just get killed anticlimactically lmao. The spinoff game even does this with a level, which turns out to be in beta and just two rooms long. Oh, and another one of those levels gets replaced by a surprise one so you can count that too
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Man, that sounds weirdly familiar. I really like when verses do that intentionally to prove a point. LISA and Fallen London have a few specific examples of that too.
 
EliminatorVenom said:
That's true, but to be honest, it's just like how others said here: That's very common of japanese media.

While Baki is quite blatant with that, true, there are other similar franchises. Drifters is the worst offender of this that I've seen: Katanas were considered so high technology that the dwarves of a fantasy world, that could make guns and weaponry far beyond what would be applicable to feudal Japan, can't replicate the sword making process of a katana.
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Fair enough, Japanese media does have a tendency to do that I just specifically mentioned Baki since thats what was brought up and I remember it very vividly.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Gohan has reasons for not being strong despite having potential, one of them is just not liking to fight, the dude just wanna sit at home reading books not train and get stronger, he can and will fight when needed but just doesn't like to fight, which is actually pretty interesting and better than being a fight loving maniac like his father, save that role for goten.
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Bruh, Goten has been treated so bad as a character. The kid was helpful during the Buu Saga and now he's a background character (sometimes not even that).
 
EliminatorVenom said:
Man, that sounds weirdly familiar. I really like when verses do that intentionally to prove a point. LISA and Fallen London have a few specific examples of that too.
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Oh yeah it's definitely one of my favorite uses of it at least for NMH1, I could spend a lot of time talking about what I think might be its narrative and symbolic weight- by the way one of the two bosses that's one-shotted is the would-be final boss, which is a really ballsy move

Unfortunately for NMH2 I think it's just trying to echo what the first game did but more without really getting the point, it just kinda happens. Plus the back of the box promises 51 assassins (cause haha Suda51 made it kinda) but obviously they couldn't do that many bosses so they just kill off most of them.

For TSA I adore the level swap, since it swaps into a level that's a crossover with an older Suda51 game and easily my favorite of the game (it's way more interesting narratively than simple fanservice)

As for NMHIII I dunno I think there might be some point I'm missing but I'll admit it kinda stung not to be able to fight some of the alien bosses, for example this guy had a really cool concept and unique personality and the boss that replaced him isn't a very fun fight. But at the same time I think doing some human bosses and some alien ones works better in terms of pacing.
 
Half the time, Gotenks wasn't even useful. He lost to Majin Buu in base, & he had little idea how to fight properly. Mostly showboating & such. He made some innovative techniques, & he could actually brawl correctly, but he had no sense of tactics or urgency, & always acted like he had an audience to impress WHEN THE ENTIRE POPULACE OF EARTH WAS DEAD.
Gotenks, Piccolo doesn't care how you look just so long as you beat Buu.

& also, too many of your special moves were just basic attacks.

Poor Goten, that being Gotenks was his peak.
 
Honestly I don't know what's worse for Goten; being treated as Goku lite or being treated as a non-character (When he isn't Gotenks).

At least some Dragon Ball fanfics do give him his due but most (That I've read) still use Gotenks as crutch.
 
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