Where does Spider-Man get his Low 7-C?

[The_Impress]

In Spidey's AP description, he is stated to be roughly comparable yet weaker than Luke Cage (Low 7-C) but stronger than Deadpool (8-A). That isn't solid enough.

In his Dura description, his reasoning for Low 7-C is tanking hits from Venom and Carnage, who scale from him already.

Is there a calc for him that gives him Low 7-C? Non-explosion ones preferrable, they are iffy according to a CRT.

Incase there isn't, I might try to find consistent Spider-Man feats since apparently 30+ characters scale to him

 

[Lonkitt]

Well, while he's possibly being downgraded to 8-A, the reasoning also comes from a calc where he pushes the Hulk at some pretty high speeds. That in addition with Luke Cage and highly surpassing 8-As when going all out is what gave him his Low 7-C ranking. Venom and Carnage are depicted as far exceeding his strength so aside from scaling Spidey's Dura to his AP, that is used to justify his durability.

EDIT: Sidenote. Shocker, a villain that's on par with Spidey, has drew blood from Luke Cage. It isn't mentioned on Spidey's page but it is on Shocker's.

 

[The_Impress]

Idk, Venom and Carnage aren't potrayed exceedingly superior in most comics I've read, just slightly stronger than regular webs.

Luke Cage is weird scaling, since he is supposed to be stronger than Spidey and can oneshot Venom, who is supposedly superior to Peter.

Also, can you link to the thread where said downgrade is taking place?

 

[Lonkitt]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2153218?useskin=oasis

It's sorta kinda here...in a speed revision oddly enough.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

That was mentioned months ago, and never followed through because many disagreed. Plus that was mainly a speed revision.

 

[Lonkitt]

I'm not sure how much you read of it, but not too long ago f you scroll through a few comments, it was being discussed.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Near the end? Then it would be best turned to another CRT since, again, that was mainly speed focused. But eh, perhaps they decided to use the extra time they had as most issues were dealt with.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

"Where does Spider-Man get his Low 7-C?"

Did you not look at the calculatio in the reasoning? It's literally the first thing there.

 

[The_Impress]

Well yeah, but in a CRT thread the same point was brought up people dismissed it as an outlier. So I thought it was as such

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

It's defintly not an outlier.

 

[Huesito88]

It's no longer a outliner, but for a different reason its being questioned.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Doesn't make any sense why any of the spider-man should be below Mult-City Block/Block+ level, When individually they're stronger then Cap.

 

[Lonkitt]

It's no longer a outliner, but for a different reason its being questioned.

Wait, the Hulk Pushing feat is no longer an outlier?

 

[KLOL506]

Not really, but the calc itself is pretty iffy due to using KE for a thing as big as the Hulk.

At least 8-A is what Spidey will be dropped back to.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Which doesn't make sense either.

 

[Lonkitt]

I never asked about validity of the calc. I asked if it's considered an outlier at the moment.

 

[Antvasima]

It may or may not be an outlier, but it is very unreliable to scale attack potency from a speed feat. It is much better to use raw power or durability feats instead.

 

[KLOL506]

Antvasima is correct.