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I was actually referring to this comment you made.Dargoo Faust said:
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What has a Soul?
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There made of rocks. This one of the ones that are weird. (And also by the scientific definition they wouldn't be alive.)Steven Pogi Paitao said:
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Technically, no, they do not have an afterlife or something similar. They have however mind and consciousness, reason why they are still "human".Steven Pogi Paitao said:
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They aren't capable of repurducing. When pink made steven she made no new gem (there actually bodys) she just gave steven her gem essentially rencarrating herself.Sir Ovens said:
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No actually that's a mind... it's part of telepathic abilitys.Sir Ovens said:
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Its not a soul its an astral projection connected to their consciousness
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Gems are similar to AI. But based in Stones that have their core Data in them, like an AI on a hard drive.
But, @Darkmon the Soul May have originated from a religion, but it's not exclusive to it, nor is looking at it from the perspective of religion solely a good idea. Though, it wouldn't really be much different if we're looking at Japanese Myths for example. You said, in Japanese Myths, the chairs' Souls and traits are impressions of those around it?
A. that's a fire concept, and if you can show me where you got that from, then that's good info to know for writing.
B. That doesn't change the fact that anything CAN have a Soul.
As for what constitutes a living thing... Anything can be considered alive. It's a definition with arbitrary exceptions. Humans and sufficiently advanced machines are no different. We are both ruled by programming, so if a robot shouldn't have a Soul, neither should we. That's, of course, if you want to get into semantics.
But, usually anything that can be considered a whole thing would have a Soul. The definition for life that excludes viruses could obviously just include viruses as one of the many exceptions to the rules that we have for scientific definitions. Some Aliens, like, I guess, the Alien from Alien, may be made of Silicon or something— or Diamonds, like from Ben Ten.
I like the definition DMUA the best for Vs debates, though, to keep that clear.
As for beyond that... All things can be considered alive technically, if we ignore the Cell requirements. Movement is common in every atom of everything, which would mean that every particle has a Soul, and possibly in addition, a United being has its own soul. But, the problem then becomes "to what extent is a being considered a United thing?" You can take apart a machine and repurpose its parts, or make it so only its parts at the core of it are around.
If you put your brain in a robot body, does your Soul go with it.
This is how you know Souls don't exist IRL, or at least are irrelevant to anything on our level of intelligence— because there's no viable definition.
But, @Darkmon the Soul May have originated from a religion, but it's not exclusive to it, nor is looking at it from the perspective of religion solely a good idea. Though, it wouldn't really be much different if we're looking at Japanese Myths for example. You said, in Japanese Myths, the chairs' Souls and traits are impressions of those around it?
A. that's a fire concept, and if you can show me where you got that from, then that's good info to know for writing.
B. That doesn't change the fact that anything CAN have a Soul.
As for what constitutes a living thing... Anything can be considered alive. It's a definition with arbitrary exceptions. Humans and sufficiently advanced machines are no different. We are both ruled by programming, so if a robot shouldn't have a Soul, neither should we. That's, of course, if you want to get into semantics.
But, usually anything that can be considered a whole thing would have a Soul. The definition for life that excludes viruses could obviously just include viruses as one of the many exceptions to the rules that we have for scientific definitions. Some Aliens, like, I guess, the Alien from Alien, may be made of Silicon or something— or Diamonds, like from Ben Ten.
I like the definition DMUA the best for Vs debates, though, to keep that clear.
As for beyond that... All things can be considered alive technically, if we ignore the Cell requirements. Movement is common in every atom of everything, which would mean that every particle has a Soul, and possibly in addition, a United being has its own soul. But, the problem then becomes "to what extent is a being considered a United thing?" You can take apart a machine and repurpose its parts, or make it so only its parts at the core of it are around.
If you put your brain in a robot body, does your Soul go with it.
This is how you know Souls don't exist IRL, or at least are irrelevant to anything on our level of intelligence— because there's no viable definition.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to have this be a philosophical discussion, just regarding how we apply this to VS Debates.
Case-by-case seems like the best answer for now.
Case-by-case seems like the best answer for now.
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I'd say it's only for beings that are sentient, unless the Verse explicitly states that everything, including beings that aren't sentient, has a soul
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1 you never said what there called. I could only assume. (Also you never gave a source Ethier..)Amexim said:
B that is silly. EXTREMELY. This Isn't about the theoretical any random kid in a bassment can write whatever they want. I again point to the comment I quoted from dragoo earlier.
3 don't bring such claims about real life into this. It leads to bad places. I happen to be religious myself and I take offence to that comment.
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I think I've already had my question answered, and case-by-case seems like the best way to take it for now.
As the last thing I want here is a religious argument, I'm just going to close this, as it'll do more harm than good. I apologize for lacking the foresight regarding that when making this thread.
As the last thing I want here is a religious argument, I'm just going to close this, as it'll do more harm than good. I apologize for lacking the foresight regarding that when making this thread.
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