Weakest Cosmologies in Fiction (Ranked List)

[The_Impress]

We always talk about the strong ones, but idk it's interesting to see which are the most unconventionally weak.

For those who don't know, a cosmology refers to the entirety of the verse in its being, universes, multiverses, dimensions, any planes of existence, everything.

A few rules before we begin:

• Every verse must be lower than 3-A, as it is the selected baseline.
• General Metaverses (canonically fiction in-verse) will be listed as a single entity to avoid repetition
• We'll be treating OVERALL cosmology, not specific sections.

With that said, let the discussion begin :y

Spoiler: The List

1. General Metaverses: 10-C
2. Tower of God (Proposed by azontr): 5-B
3. Dark Souls (Proposed by Naitodesu): High 4-C
4. Dragon Quest IX (Proposed by Blahblah9755): 4-A
5. Warriors (Proposed by DaReaper Man): 4-A, possibly 3-C
6. Firefly (Proposed by Overlord775): 3-C
7. Standard Universes: 3-A

 

[Confluctor]

Irredeemable. Currently, it's just 3A. but it's characters cap at 4-C

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Can't think about any specific example, but anything based off the Christian Firmament would likely be up there, as the cosmology would only be 4-C.

 

[The_Impress]

Irredeemable. Currently, it's just 3A. but it's characters cap at 4-C

Oh characters don't matter :v

Can't think about any specific example, but anything based off the Christian Firmament would likely be up there, as the cosmology would only be 4-C.

How so? Also I don't think it's 1-to-1 always treated like that, no? Especially the modern adaptations tend to associate the Universe to God

 

[DaReaperMan]

Warriors. It's got a 4-A, possibly 3-C for a known cosmology

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Oh characters don't matter :v

How so? Also I don't think it's 1-to-1 always treated like that, no? Especially the modern adaptations tend to associate the Universe to God

The firmament is an idea in Christian cosmology that the sum of existence is just the Earth, the moon, and the sun, contained in a sort of bubble of air. Note that the idea is pretty unpopular so it's probably not used anywhere but...maybe somewhere.

 

[The_Impress]

Fancy

 

[DaReaperMan]

Surprising that a verse about God damn cats has a 4-A possibly 3-C cosmology lol

 

[The_Impress]

Why's it like that tho :v

 

[DaReaperMan]

Why's it like that tho :v

Something something Starclan traverses the sky which includes stars as a literal hunting ground.

 

[The_Impress]

I see I see

 

[Confluctor]

Oh. One Piece. Could be a whole universe but so far, we have only up to a single solar system.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Cthulhu Mythos!

 

[Naito-desu]

Dark Souls and Hollow Knight come to mind. The strongest beings and the First Flame in Souls clock out to High 4-C, while the entirety of Hollow Knight could take place on a large wall anyway

 

[Overlord775]

-Firefly

 

[Metalballrun]

This is spoilers for the game Dentures and Demons, so don't click if you want to play it blind: It doesn't have a profile in this wiki, but the mobile game Dentures and Demons should count. The verse is 2-D, although it has a 3-D character known as the Demon by the characters simply as the demon, which is actually just you, the Player.

 

[Tago238]

Good Omens should be tier 4 cause of medieval cosmology and all, although I dunno if that's canon in the show.

We also seem to treat real world and video game ratings in SAO in a vacuum from one another so maybe it counts because of skybox shenanigans.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I know the OP wanted verses to cap out at 3-A but I feel like Castlevania (Netflix) should be worthy of a brief mention: the characters physically cap out at 8-C with them reaching 7-B via preparation/environmental destruction however the cosmology is likely 2-A via the infinite corridor which leads to countless likely infinite worlds and universes (including Hell) that are all separated by space and time.

 

[Tago238]

I know the OP wanted verses to cap out at 3-A but I feel like Castlevania (Netflix) should be worthy of a brief mention: the characters physically cap out at 8-C with them reaching 7-B via preparation/environmental destruction however the cosmology is likely 2-A via the infinite corridor which leads to countless likely infinite worlds and universes (including Hell) that are all separated by space and time.

I..

Did you..

Did you not read what this thread is about? A 2-A cosmology is extremely, extremely ******* common and it therefore isn't notably small.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I..

Did you..

Did you not read what this thread is about? A 2-A cosmology is extremely, extremely ******* common and it therefore isn't notably small.

The thread was about the weakest cosmologies not the smallest, sure 2-As are common in fiction but a 2-A cosmology that literally no one scales to and the strongest character in that cosmology is 7-B through ED seems pretty weak to me (and not super common the last time I checked).

Also I did say a brief mention, no need to ruffle your feathers.

 

[azontr]

Tower of God.


I think we have a bit of knowledge on other universes and shit within the Talse Uzer Stories, but that's pretty much it. But then again my brain functions at 3% capacity so I could be wrong.

 

[Tago238]

The thread was about the weakest cosmologies not the smallest, sure 2-As are common in fiction but a 2-A cosmology that literally no one scales to and the strongest character in that cosmology is 7-B through ED seems pretty weak to me (and not super common the last time I checked).

Also I did say a brief mention, no need to ruffle your feathers.

Yeah I think it's less of a leap to say that the intention of the thread was about smaller cosmologies than whatever you're going on about. In your own words:

The thread was about the weakest cosmologies not the largest relative to the amount characters in verse are capable of destroying

No, a 2-A multiverse nobody scales to is extremely common. Infinite universes is an extremely common trope in fiction whereas a god capable of interacting with all of them ain't.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Dragon Quest IX might work here. The cosmology is based on a description similar to the one from Genesis, where the verse’s god places all the stars in the sky from view of Earth, so space is likely only 4-A in size here.
With regards to the third rule, it’s not part of the cosmology of most of the rest of the DQ series, as the god who created/governs reality is different, and the only stuff connecting it to those universes is post-game content of questionable canonicity.

 

[Spider_Kaiju]

His Dark Materials currently has a false God who is extremely weak physically, despite him once being perhaps Large Mountain capability.

 

[The_Impress]

Dark Souls and Hollow Knight come to mind. The strongest beings and the First Flame in Souls clock out to High 4-C, while the entirety of Hollow Knight could take place on a large wall anyway

Hollow Knight iirc is still a Low 2-C system. Can you elaborate on Dark Souls' case?

Oh. One Piece. Could be a whole universe but so far, we have only up to a single solar system.

Mmm, think it should be specified the verse isn't a universe

-Firefly

Counted

This is spoilers for the game Dentures and Demons, so don't click if you want to play it blind: It doesn't have a profile in this wiki, but the mobile game Dentures and Demons should count. The verse is 2-D, although it has a 3-D character known as the Demon by the characters simply as the demon, which is actually just you, the Player.

Unless I'm mistaken this sounds like a standard metaverse, which will be composited

Tower of God.


I think we have a bit of knowledge on other universes and shit within the Talse Uzer Stories, but that's pretty much it. But then again my brain functions at 3% capacity so I could be wrong.

I mean other universes still make it 2-C, so discounted :v

Dragon Quest IX might work here. The cosmology is based on a description similar to the one from Genesis, where the verse’s god places all the stars in the sky from view of Earth, so space is likely only 4-A in size here.
With regards to the third rule, it’s not part of the cosmology of most of the rest of the DQ series, as the god who created/governs reality is different, and the only stuff connecting it to those universes is post-game content of questionable canonicity.

Kk, counted

His Dark Materials currently has a false God who is extremely weak physically, despite him once being perhaps Large Mountain capability.

Mmm, isn't it still Low 2-C tho

 

[azontr]

I mean other universes still make it 2-C, so discounted :v

yah face is discounted :v

 

[The_Impress]

Well currently we have a nice top 5, so keep suggesting y'all :y

 

[azontr]

Spoiler: Revision of the previous claim.

Ok, so, after reading a bit, I sort of realized that there is no actual evidence for the universes being well... universes. Sure, they say that a Talse Uzer Story is a universe, but a lot of stories say that which probably just refers to the settings of the story. So yeah, currently, Tower of God is pretty much encompassed by the Tower and an unknown outside world which we have no knowledge of. So currently, Tower of God cosmology is like, maybe, 5-B if we're lucky.

There, did some fact-checking, get rekt

 

[The_Impress]

Pog, weakest non-metaverse

 

[Naito-desu]

Hollow Knight iirc is still a Low 2-C system. Can you elaborate on Dark Souls' case?

The system of Dark Souls only ever revolves around the First Flame which is High 4-C via keeping the Sun alive, all of the in-game pantheons scale below it. There is a fringe argument for it being 2-A due to the First Flame heavily dilating time and supposedly creating different timelines and whatnot, but considering it's not accepted on the wiki, it can be dismissed.

 

[The_Impress]

K, so Dark Souls at High 4-C