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Battle takes place in the Visored Headquarters. Kensei is in his first key.
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The fight was offscreened, so as far as we know Kensei got one-shotted.Kensei made Wonderweiss go into Rez
Jushiro was literally stand there unguarded. He didn't even have his sword drawn. Its pretty clear to me that Jushiro was superior to Wonderweiss since Wonderweiss in Rez got 2 shotted by swordless Yamamoto, and Jushiro was able to survive against Shikai Yamamoto(albeit with Shunsui)blitzed and one shot Jushiro = Shunsui who is relative to Love.
You’d need scans to say Kensei was one shot. You can’t even argue Rez Wonderweiss was unharmed to say Bankai Kensei failed to harm him since he has high speed regen.The fight was offscreened, so as far as we know Kensei got one-shotted.
Everyone was watching Wonderweiss and Hooleer casually free the top 3 Espada and traitor Captains. The kid literally blitzed straight past all of them to one shot Jushiro from behind and you’re telling me they weren’t on guard at all? No. They just couldn’t respond cuz they are trash to him in terms of speed.Jushiro was literally stand there unguarded. He didn't even have his sword drawn.
Yama with no sword also thought he could beat the brakes off of Aizen who would clown both Shunsui and Jushiro with stats alone. Rez Wonderweiss also caught Ryujin Jakka barehanded despite Yama gearing up to kill Aizen who is in the same league as Yama.Its pretty clear to me that Jushiro was superior to Wonderweiss since Wonderweiss in Rez got 2 shotted by swordless Yamamoto,
Shunsui and Jushiro working together is equivalent to a Bankai for either of them considering Shunsui was about to be forced to use his Bankai by Starrk before Jushiro stepped in to keep his ass alive.and Jushiro was able to survive against Shikai Yamamoto(albeit with Shunsui)
I was only pointing out that we have no idea how the fight went.You’d need scans to say Kensei was one shot.
We don't even know if Wonderweiss used his rez state.You can’t even argue Rez Wonderweiss was unharmed to say Bankai Kensei failed to harm him since he has high speed regen.
Shikai Kensei didn't even fight Wonderweiss other than catching his punch. And it was never said that he went Bankai purely because he was annoyed.What we do know for a fact is that Kensei went Bankai against base Wonderweiss because he was annoyed and that base Wonderweiss couldn’t do a thing to Shikai Kensei.
Or it could be that he went into rez afterwards to fight Old Man Yama since that's Extinguir's purpose. And even if assuming Kensei forced Wonderweiss into rez we have no proof if he did any damage.If he proceeded to come back in Rez, common sense dictates that he was forced to use it. Such an implication puts Kensei >>> Masked Mashiro who couldn’t force Wonderweiss to use Rez despite getting ragdolled.
By this logic Mashiro is faster than Shunsui.Everyone was watching Wonderweiss and Hooleer casually free the top 3 Espada and traitor Captains. The kid literally blitzed straight past all of them to one shot Jushiro from behind and you’re telling me they weren’t on guard at all? No. They just couldn’t respond cuz they are trash to him in terms of speed.
Yama could've reclaimed his sword since he had killed Wonderweiss. Wonderweiss caught Ryujin Jakka in rez which Kensei probably never fought, and he lost if he did.Yama with no sword also thought he could beat the brakes off of Aizen who would clown both Shunsui and Jushiro with stats alone. Rez Wonderweiss also caught Ryujin Jakka barehanded despite Yama gearing up to kill Aizen who is in the same league as Yama.
Jushiro > Wonderweiss in FKT is a pipe dream.
I agree, we don’t know exactly how the fight went but all evidence we have points to what I said being the case.I was only pointing out that we have no idea how the fight went.
Yeah, we kinda do. He was fighting Kensei, and showed up to catch RJ already in Rez, meaning he was already using it.We don't even know if Wonderweiss used his rez state.
Kensei caught Wonderweiss’ attack barehanded without using his Mask or Shikai. He physically clowns on WW, told Mashiro he was going to teach WW a lesson and then used his Bankai while he was annoyed.Shikai Kensei didn't even fight Wonderweiss other than catching his punch. And it was never said that he went Bankai purely because he was annoyed.
And how did he beat Kensei then if Kensei’s physical stats alone let him stop base Wonderweiss?Or it could be that he went into rez afterwards to fight Old Man Yama since that's Extinguir's purpose. And even if assuming Kensei forced Wonderweiss into rez we have no proof if he did any damage.
Literally yes. Do you have any antifeat for her being faster than him while using her Mask?By this logic Mashiro is faster than Shunsui.
You are completely missing the point. Kensei doesn’t need to scale to Rez Wonderweiss for this. My point is that him using Bankai pressed base Wonderweiss so much that he did use it when getting casually punted around the city did not with the possibility that he could scale which only makes this match up even worse. He doesn’t need to scale to Rez to blitz and one shot here.Yama could've reclaimed his sword since he had killed Wonderweiss. Wonderweiss caught Ryujin Jakka in rez which Kensei probably never fought, and he lost if he did.
Wonderweiss is canonically without logic.You are completely missing the point. Kensei doesn’t need to scale to Rez Wonderweiss for this. My point is that him using Bankai pressed base Wonderweiss so much that he did use it when getting casually punted around the city did not with the possibility that he could scale which only makes this match up even worse. He doesn’t need to scale to Rez to blitz and one shot here.