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Shaka can do Cross-dimensional Teleportation, telepathy, and astral projection so i don't believe range should be an issue.

I don't see resistance to Spatial manipulation on Uriel

Also how good is his resistance to mind manipulation?

Additionally Shaka could potentially incap him by stripping his 5 to 6 senses away.
 
Dispel bounds prevent the users from any soul-contact abilities since they forbid opponents from interacting with the user's astral body( aka soul/ mind) so inter-dimensional affect as well as resistance negation would be necessary just to actually damage him.

Augoeides has an auto-mechanism of reflecting any physical attacks via space-bending( it should be noted that even a far more inferior version of High-ranked angels/ demons(seraphims) such as Anthrax( a dominion) could achieve similar feats from the pretty beginning of the series. That's not even including their astral bodies' physiology which just outright immune to normal space-time manipulations.

Mind hax/ resistance things in bastard is pretty mediocre tbh. But it is fair to say that Uriel has atleast 1-2 layers of mind-hax resistance ( he was unaffected by Konron's Augo which hax through normal mental resistance scaling from people who resisted Anthrax's appearance)

Would you mind explain how senses and stuffs work cuz I literally blind about SS
 
Dispel bounds prevent the users from any soul-contact abilities since they forbid opponents from interacting with the user's astral body( aka soul/ mind) so inter-dimensional affect as well as resistance negation would be necessary just to actually damage him.

Augoeides has an auto-mechanism of reflecting any physical attacks via space-bending( it should be noted that even a far more inferior version of High-ranked angels/ demons(seraphims) such as Anthrax( a dominion) could achieve similar feats from the pretty beginning of the series. That's not even including their astral bodies' physiology which just outright immune to normal space-time manipulations.

Mind hax/ resistance things in bastard is pretty mediocre tbh. But it is fair to say that Uriel has atleast 1-2 layers of mind-hax resistance ( he was unaffected by Konron's Augo which hax through normal mental resistance scaling from people who resisted Anthrax's appearance)

Would you mind explain the how senses and stuffs work cuz I literally blind about SS
the 5 senses are the basic senses, touch, taste, sight, smell, hearing

the 6th sense is literally the metaphysical mind itself. Its like flipping an off switch on your mind disabling it

If he's resistant to spatial manipulation shouldn't that be listed on his profile or did i go blind lol?

Virgo Shaka scales above Saga in terms of mind hax potency. His illusions are the best of any of the Gold Saints. even fully them despite having the 7 senses which adds an addtional layer of protection to mind hax increasing resistance to higher potencies. Safe to assume its 3+ layers of potency at the very least.

Can Uriel resist BFR?

There is also an NPI scaling chain for shaka in his Incorporeal form/spirit form. Gold saints like Shura had his hand phase through Shaka as a spirt despite character shown being capable of tagging and destroying spirits. so there is that in there too a higher degree of non-corporality

EDIT: Shaka will also put up a cosmo barrier around him at the start of the battle so it'll be difficult to hurt Shaka through that.
 
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the 5 senses are the basic senses, touch, taste, sight, smell, hearing

the 6th sense is literally the metaphysical mind itself. Its like flipping an off switch on your mind disabling it

If he's resistant to spatial manipulation shouldn't that be listed on his profile or did i go blind lol?
Okay so there are 2 problems here
  • Firstly is that ability of " switching ones' mind off" cross- dimensional range? Cuz basically "the mind" of a Bastard's being resides in Astral plane( which got confirmed that it is a clearly seperate dimension from the Material plane- physical/ 3D universe) and indeed Shaka have higher resistance penetrating but how do it bypass Eternal Atoms which regen the user from all 3 planes of existence(material:body- spiritual:soul)- astral: mind/ consciousness) and it should be noted that Uriel regeneration is much more potent then any other EA users since he regenerated having his EA completely vanished( Eternal atoms will only get destroyed when they got erased from the Law of Cause and Effect/ Causality itself)
  • The second issue is that what is the range of Shaka soul/ mind hax, omni-directional i mean. Since Uriel's Augoeides literally 17 times bigger than DS DKL which has a relatively comparable size to base Anthrax who is this large( Anthrax when fought with DKL was considerably bigger than her second awaken whose size is the form we saw). And Augoeides is the Etheral body, the true nature of Angels/ Demons which implies both soul and mind. So does Shaka have like mountain range soul hax which negate resistances?

Also, frankly saying, Bastard!! Profiles are a bit old as well as missing some significant clarifications for verse-terms so don't just make judges base on the profiles cuz they are not 100% full
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Btw, it not resist BFR and heat, Shaka and other saint have passive heat
Uriel should have heat resist tho since DS didn't even think about using his Exodus magic when he fought Uriel which can burn up to 20k C degree and has been heavily enhanced with Majin form( the heat Majin DS can emits to this point should be way higher than Augo Anthrax's which is 870k C) .

*edit: oops so Gods can deal millions degree so they ignore uriel resistance though do that affect the soul/ mind which reside in other dimensions as well?
 
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The same thing goes for Black Sabbath which can banish others to a different dimesion. Especially when DS did try use black sabbath in his fight with Porbo if i recall correctly and it failed obviously. Uriel post fallen is a level 900k+ demon while Porno is 800k so he would atleast has equal resistances as her
 
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About the NPI scaling stuff there is a guy called The Lich who is a "half-astral" being and attacks that could kill ghost and other incoporeal just pass through him. And angels are "pure astral" beings so they have to possess a physical vessal to interact with material plane.
Imma check this later tho( gonna have an online class soon)
 
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Okay so there are 2 problems here
  • Firstly is that ability of " switching ones' mind off" cross- dimensional range? Cuz basically "the mind" of a Bastard's being resides in Astral plane( which got confirmed that it is a clearly seperate dimension from the Material plane- physical/ 3D universe) and indeed Shaka have higher resistance penetrating but how do it bypass Eternal Atoms which regen the user from all 3 planes of existence(material:body- spiritual:soul)- astral: mind/ consciousness) and it should be noted that Uriel regeneration is much more potent then any other EA users since he regenerated having his EA completely vanished( Eternal atoms will only get destroyed when they got erased from the Law of Cause and Effect/ Causality itself)
probably. He can send people to other planes of exixtances.
 
The second issue is that what is the range of Shaka soul/ mind hax, omni-directional i mean. Since Uriel's Augoeides literally 17 times bigger than DS DKL which has a relatively comparable size to base Anthrax who is this large( Anthrax when fought with DKL was considerably bigger than her second awaken whose size is the form we saw). And Augoeides is the Etheral body, the true nature of Angels/ Demons which implies both soul and mind. So does Shaka have like mountain range soul hax which negate resistances?
Ohm can affect 20 billions at the same time, even the lower saint can affect millions souls
 
Can he be incapacitated?
incapacitated u mean like powernull? Then it depends on how Shaka's works cus battle on the level of High-ranked angels/ demons involving around nullifying each others spell bounds which is the basic use of dispel bounds( cancel magic and things alike). Uriel and DS were still capable of using their abilities while their dispel bounds were contacting( defense/ destroy/ nullify) each others.

*edit: just forget those above
 
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welp that's kinda...
anything to negate regeneration from metaphysical ee tho?
Shaka can BFR him into the Underworld. Which doesn't kill him but he becomes subject to the law of those Universes which are governed and maintained by a God whom can affect mental, spiritual, and physicals planes.

Also removal of his 5 senses can be an incap. i don't remember if it was discussed how he could avoid that.

and for range i don't think it'll be that big of an issue. His Astral Projection can use all his techniques such as Tenbu Horin which creates a universe sized pocket reality that engulfs both Shaka and the victim. This is where the 5 senses can be removed. Also removal of the 5 senses is different than having them destroyed/damaged. There is other characters that do the same via destroying/damaging the nerves in the body but Shaka's not doing that. weird concept though in the series.

Also does Uriel have any wincons through offensive means? Because it would have to be an ability from range because Shaka's Cosmo barrier will be a big issue and the range of it is small though.
 
Shaka can BFR him into the Underworld. Which doesn't kill him but he becomes subject to the law of those Universes which are governed and maintained by a God whom can affect mental, spiritual, and physicals planes.
hmmh seems interesting and would be a big issue if he somehow got bfr there. But haven't i already said that Uriel should be able to resist bfr since DS didn't use Black Sabbath- which bfr the victim to a different dimension when fighting him( considering the fact that DS is somewhat a genius combatant, like he wouldn't just spam his skills for nothing and instead start out with normal magics in order to ''probe'' his opponent PL most of the time + he is the greatest magician who had over 400 years of experience and even combat with countless astral beings( angels/ demons) and even faced with high-level ones( such as Konron, Porno) before matching Fallen Uriel.
Also removal of his 5 senses can be an incap. i don't remember if it was discussed how he could avoid that.
Ohh i see what incap means now( new to this site srry). Ok but Majin DS 5 basic senses is atleast 10k times that of a ordinary human and Uriel definitely match him( he literally punched him right there lol)
and for range i don't think it'll be that big of an issue. His Astral Projection can use all his techniques such as Tenbu Horin which creates a universe sized pocket reality that engulfs both Shaka and the victim. This is where the 5 senses can be removed. Also removal of the 5 senses is different than having them destroyed/damaged. There is other characters that do the same via destroying/damaging the nerves in the body but Shaka's not doing that. weird concept though in the series.
Seriously wut these have anything to do with interacting 3 different realms/ dimensions/ planes of existence at the same time that Eternal Atom reside in? Universal range =/= inter-dimensional

Also does Uriel have any wincons through offensive means? Because it would have to be an ability from range because Shaka's Cosmo barrier will be a big issue and the range of it is small though.
How far does the cosmo barrier work. Also from the start we seems to have forgot that Uriel has immortality type9 in which his true form/ etheral body resides in the Astral Plane and he can just attack cross- dimesional to affect Shaka and therefore, utterly bypass Shaka's barrier
 
hmmh seems interesting and would be a big issue if he somehow got bfr there. But haven't i already said that Uriel should be able to resist bfr since DS didn't use Black Sabbath- which bfr the victim to a different dimension when fighting him( considering the fact that DS is somewhat a genius combatant, like he wouldn't just spam his skills for nothing and instead start out with normal magics in order to ''probe'' his opponent PL most of the time + he is the greatest magician who had over 400 years of experience and even combat with countless astral beings( angels/ demons) and even faced with high-level ones( such as Konron, Porno) before matching Fallen Uriel.
Shaka can BFR Ikki who is unaffected by Mu's BFR
 
Shaka can BFR Ikki who is unaffected by Mu's BFR
well it seems inevitable i guess. How does that law-thing work to be exact? From what I've grasped on the profiles Hades' realm kinda a place when you get banished from Wheel of Samsara which is the cycle of reincarnation, also The world of Emptiness is an emptiness( without space) where time does not exist( without time) so I can assume that being removed from Wheel of Samara( and gone to WOE) is somewhat similar to being exinguished from Causality (The law of cause and effect itself) - since ''Causality'' by definition governs both time and space as two of its aspects(events happen base on causality).

And Uriel still managed to comeback from a similar situation( EA get destroyed = vanished from the law of cause and effects)
 
well it seems inevitable i guess. How does that law-thing work to be exact? From what I've grasped on the profiles Hades' realm kinda a place when you get banished from Wheel of Samsara which is the cycle of reincarnation, also The world of Emptiness is an emptiness( without space) where time does not exist( without time) so I can assume that being removed from Wheel of Samara( and gone to WOE) is somewhat similar to being exinguished from Causality (The law of cause and effect itself) - since ''Causality'' by definition governs both time and space as two of its aspects(events happen base on causality).

And Uriel still managed to comeback from a similar situation( EA get destroyed = vanished from the law of cause and effects)
Well, Underword is a place where living being will affected by law of Hades which include death manip, soul manip, mind manip and all of that is passive when you arrive
 
Well, Underword is a place where living being will affected by law of Hades which include death manip, soul manip, mind manip and all of that is passive when you arrive
like i said, which of those is capable of erasing Uriel completely( negating his regen)? Does Underworld mind manip have the same resistance neg level as Shaka cuz Uriel has 1-2 layers mental resistance
 
like i said, which of those is capable of erasing Uriel completely( negating his regen)? Does Underworld mind manip have the same resistance neg level as Shaka cuz Uriel has 1-2 layers mental resistance
It should have higher than shaka, since Hades is the one doing it, and he’s > Shaka.
 
It should have higher than shaka, since Hades is the one doing it, and he’s > Shaka.
Last confirmation: Specifically, what does that mind hax have. Because if it's some sort of mental/ mind destruction then Uriel may endure the effect via his regenerative capability
 
Last confirmation: Specifically, what does that mind hax have. Because if it's some sort of mental/ mind destruction then Uriel may endure the effect via his regenerative capability
It’s more of mind control to my knowledge.
 
I think we need to clarify if Shaka can affect anything other than the body(material plane) of Uriel since his mind and soul reside in Astral Plane and Spiritual Plane respectively. Cuz if he can't throw all Uriel's body/soul/mind at the same time to Hades Realm then the mind hax won't happen in the first place. I mean if it's just his body that get bfr, uriel can recreate a new one effortlessly thanks to his regen ability.

Also as I've said, we seem to have ignored Uriel's wincon and the fact that his true essence reside in a different plane of existence
 
Uriel's wincon is quite simple tho, he has low-godly regen neg( angels/ demons are capable of killing each other) and with the capability of affecting astral bodies(angels)- which is 1-level "more incoporeal" than usual intangible beings since DS's Black Sabbath could cancel out Ede (i thought he was called the lich lol) magic which is literally the emission of souls he has absorbed previously, while it couldn't affect the astral part of Ede. So uriel's NPI is potent enough to interact with Shaka
 
The Saint can Amp their stat through probabilities manip so it's easy for Shaka to evade and beat Uriel. Besides, they can analyze any attack after seeing it once and can adapt or counter it
 
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