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Villains
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Bowser is my favorite via having a good personality, having simple and easy to follow goals that can become dark and complicated plans, and just being enjoyable in general.
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Viktor (League of Legends)
Despite having only a moderate amount of lore compared to other LoL characters he is arguably one of the best written characters in the verse, with his motives differing vastly from the majority of the other villain characters in the verse who primarily seek power or destruction, his motives are, when it boils down to it, that he genuinely wants to help people but has methods that make others see him as a monster. His dynamic with Jayce shows an honest struggle between who is should be percieved as the real 'bad guy' between them.
Despite having only a moderate amount of lore compared to other LoL characters he is arguably one of the best written characters in the verse, with his motives differing vastly from the majority of the other villain characters in the verse who primarily seek power or destruction, his motives are, when it boils down to it, that he genuinely wants to help people but has methods that make others see him as a monster. His dynamic with Jayce shows an honest struggle between who is should be percieved as the real 'bad guy' between them.
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A lot of my verses have good villains, some having several, so I may be here quite a lot. Let's start off with a few.
The Gods of Chaos
So, Warhammer 40,000 isn't exactly the friendliest franchise. Nobody can really be considered a sole "good" faction, but Chaos is one of the more clearly malevolent ones. It is also much of what I find most fascinating about the verse, and nothing exemplifies this more than the gods. Each God is some sort of abstract concept, with Khorne being war/rage, Tzeentch being change, Nurgle being decay, and Slaanesh being pleasure/desire. What I like about them is that Chaos was born from the gestalt consciousness of organisms in verse (let's not argue warp semantics on this thread lol) as like it or not, these are emotions and concepts we all partake in regardless of morality. When we look at chaos, we are in a sense, looking at ourselves. Chaos is a reflection of the more basal, primal self, and them being held back by the Emperor, in essence a Chaos God of Order, is representative of how our conscious mind must constantly maintain and suppress our more basic desires, lest our conduct degenerate entirely. The entire verse dynamic is representative of the human mind, in a way.You've even got depressio.
What it is important to remember is that the CGs aren't purely "negative" emotions. For example:
Let's take the Emperor, and dissect him in a similar way:
While we're talking about the Emperor, let's move on to
Drach'nye
Drach is an incredibly powerful daemon of chaos in general rather than one specific god, who hurt The Emperor himself and made him feel fear. To explain this through Warhammer symbolism, Drach as an unaligned daemon of chaos in essence represents all of the CG aspects, that is to say, the unconscious emotional mind as a while. It impaling the Emperor and causing him to feel fear represents our realization on our natures and how even this ideal is not immune to raw emotion. The fact that the Emperor found himself unable to kill Drach and instead had to seal it is also significant, being an allegory for how we cannot truly destroy our inner demons, and can only attempt to suppress them, as they are an integral part of what makes us us, like it or not. There's more Drach related symbolism stuff, but honestly a lot of the fun with stuff like this is reading and interpreting for yourself.
Oryx, the Taken King
Now Oryx I quite like for several reasons.
Firstly, his motivations are eerily similar to those of the PC. One reason he came to the Solar System is that you sorta murdered his son Crota, then also ruined his funeral. Even from a human perspective, being mad that someone murdered your son is perfectly understandable, and many people could justify violence in such a situation. However, it also interestingly parallels what happens later in Forsaken, when Cayde-6 dies. Just like Oryx, the PC goes on a tear throughout the Solar System, killing anything in their way to get a shot at the perpetrator. Only difference there is that Oryx didn't succeed in avenging his son. Oryx is actually a quite good father in general. Read about his parenting here.
The second reason for Oryx's behavior in general is at its most basic level, the desire to grow stronger. Per Oryx's morality (which will warp reality), if something is killed, it did not deserve to live in the first place, as it is weak. Existence is a constant struggle for the right to exist, and as such one must constantly accrue power and assert that they have the right to exist. This is why Oryx has been on a tear through the universe for billions of years, annihilating species and systems. He simply thinks its the only moral thing to do to make sure that only stuff that deserves to exist does, and in doing so constantly makes sure that he is still deserving of this privilege. When you kill him, his final thoughts are anguish at not being able to avenge his son, but also understanding that he died because he was weak, and as such the PC deserved to win. In killing him, they assert their existence, and that is good. Now, he did expect you to take up his mantle so he could live on forever, constantly correcting his killer as they constantly correct him, which you didn't do, but this is similar to just the general mindset of a player of this type of game. You go out and kill things to get stronger and stronger gear to drop, then kill other players in PVP to prove that you're better and deserving of not being killed by them. While Hive morality may seem abhorrent, upon closer inspection, does the guardian not tread that closer than human morality?Not even gonna get into how the PC starves children rn that is for another comment
Oryx also has a huge impact on the universe of Destiny. Him destroying the Cabal in the Solar System caused the entire empire to invade and take the Traveller from the Guardians, him nearly destroying the Vex caused them to work even harder at perfecting their science so such a close call could never happen again resulting in Curse of Osiris, his arrival resulted in the reawakening of warmind Rasputin, and his death made his sister, Savathun, spring into action herself, causing basically all of the Forsaken DLC.
I also love how huge a jump in power he is from most of the verse, and how that's made very clear in verse. I mean, just look at his profile, but everyone in verse has similar reactions. Crota considers his dad as extremely powerful and a good model to aspire to, the Vex in all their nigh omniscience couldn't forsee any way where they would defeat Oryx, Oryx caused the Cabal, a race with no word for failure, to send a distress beaco, Rasputin thought he was The Darkness itself, The Nine went into a frenzy when he Took an Ahamkara (Godlike wish granting dragon-worms), hell even in his own race he breaks the rules. He killed a god supposedly unfathomably above him, and for it The Darkness was impressed to the extent that it lets Oryx channel its strength directly.
I think that's enough for now, but this isn't the last you'll have seen of me on this thread.
The Gods of Chaos
So, Warhammer 40,000 isn't exactly the friendliest franchise. Nobody can really be considered a sole "good" faction, but Chaos is one of the more clearly malevolent ones. It is also much of what I find most fascinating about the verse, and nothing exemplifies this more than the gods. Each God is some sort of abstract concept, with Khorne being war/rage, Tzeentch being change, Nurgle being decay, and Slaanesh being pleasure/desire. What I like about them is that Chaos was born from the gestalt consciousness of organisms in verse (let's not argue warp semantics on this thread lol) as like it or not, these are emotions and concepts we all partake in regardless of morality. When we look at chaos, we are in a sense, looking at ourselves. Chaos is a reflection of the more basal, primal self, and them being held back by the Emperor, in essence a Chaos God of Order, is representative of how our conscious mind must constantly maintain and suppress our more basic desires, lest our conduct degenerate entirely. The entire verse dynamic is representative of the human mind, in a way.
What it is important to remember is that the CGs aren't purely "negative" emotions. For example:
- While Khorne does represent death, war, violence, and many others, Khorne also is strength, honor, and pride.
- Tzeentch represents multiple things that aren't really tied to morality, such as change, planning, hope, envy, and magic.
- While Nurgle represents death, disease, and decay, it also ends up representing endurance, healing, and even life. Death is a necessary aspect for the cycle of life to continue after all, with old things decaying to make way for the new life to sprout.
- While Slaanesh covers depravity, degeneracy, and debauchery, it also includes more general concepts of beauty, love, and desire.
Let's take the Emperor, and dissect him in a similar way:
- While the Emperor stands for Humanity, order, and expansion, He also ends up representing stagnation, religious zealotry, fascism, and many other ails.
While we're talking about the Emperor, let's move on to
Drach'nye
Drach is an incredibly powerful daemon of chaos in general rather than one specific god, who hurt The Emperor himself and made him feel fear. To explain this through Warhammer symbolism, Drach as an unaligned daemon of chaos in essence represents all of the CG aspects, that is to say, the unconscious emotional mind as a while. It impaling the Emperor and causing him to feel fear represents our realization on our natures and how even this ideal is not immune to raw emotion. The fact that the Emperor found himself unable to kill Drach and instead had to seal it is also significant, being an allegory for how we cannot truly destroy our inner demons, and can only attempt to suppress them, as they are an integral part of what makes us us, like it or not. There's more Drach related symbolism stuff, but honestly a lot of the fun with stuff like this is reading and interpreting for yourself.
Oryx, the Taken King
Now Oryx I quite like for several reasons.
Firstly, his motivations are eerily similar to those of the PC. One reason he came to the Solar System is that you sorta murdered his son Crota, then also ruined his funeral. Even from a human perspective, being mad that someone murdered your son is perfectly understandable, and many people could justify violence in such a situation. However, it also interestingly parallels what happens later in Forsaken, when Cayde-6 dies. Just like Oryx, the PC goes on a tear throughout the Solar System, killing anything in their way to get a shot at the perpetrator. Only difference there is that Oryx didn't succeed in avenging his son. Oryx is actually a quite good father in general. Read about his parenting here.
The second reason for Oryx's behavior in general is at its most basic level, the desire to grow stronger. Per Oryx's morality (which will warp reality), if something is killed, it did not deserve to live in the first place, as it is weak. Existence is a constant struggle for the right to exist, and as such one must constantly accrue power and assert that they have the right to exist. This is why Oryx has been on a tear through the universe for billions of years, annihilating species and systems. He simply thinks its the only moral thing to do to make sure that only stuff that deserves to exist does, and in doing so constantly makes sure that he is still deserving of this privilege. When you kill him, his final thoughts are anguish at not being able to avenge his son, but also understanding that he died because he was weak, and as such the PC deserved to win. In killing him, they assert their existence, and that is good. Now, he did expect you to take up his mantle so he could live on forever, constantly correcting his killer as they constantly correct him, which you didn't do, but this is similar to just the general mindset of a player of this type of game. You go out and kill things to get stronger and stronger gear to drop, then kill other players in PVP to prove that you're better and deserving of not being killed by them. While Hive morality may seem abhorrent, upon closer inspection, does the guardian not tread that closer than human morality?
Oryx also has a huge impact on the universe of Destiny. Him destroying the Cabal in the Solar System caused the entire empire to invade and take the Traveller from the Guardians, him nearly destroying the Vex caused them to work even harder at perfecting their science so such a close call could never happen again resulting in Curse of Osiris, his arrival resulted in the reawakening of warmind Rasputin, and his death made his sister, Savathun, spring into action herself, causing basically all of the Forsaken DLC.
I also love how huge a jump in power he is from most of the verse, and how that's made very clear in verse. I mean, just look at his profile, but everyone in verse has similar reactions. Crota considers his dad as extremely powerful and a good model to aspire to, the Vex in all their nigh omniscience couldn't forsee any way where they would defeat Oryx, Oryx caused the Cabal, a race with no word for failure, to send a distress beaco, Rasputin thought he was The Darkness itself, The Nine went into a frenzy when he Took an Ahamkara (Godlike wish granting dragon-worms), hell even in his own race he breaks the rules. He killed a god supposedly unfathomably above him, and for it The Darkness was impressed to the extent that it lets Oryx channel its strength directly.
I think that's enough for now, but this isn't the last you'll have seen of me on this thread.
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King Bradley without a doubt is one of the most badass villains in anything I've ever seen.
Edit: oh right description also needed. Bradley is a menace and a danger in every single scene that he is in. His mere presence gives off the feeling that things are about to hit the fan whenever he shows up.
His motives are quite simple. He fights because it is what makes him who he is. It's his identity since that's all he was ever born to do.
He is a villain that is capable of sympathizing yet is still completely cruel and ruthless at the same time. Quite multifaceted in that he will respect an opponent yet will completely decimate another due to following a different ideology.
Edit: oh right description also needed. Bradley is a menace and a danger in every single scene that he is in. His mere presence gives off the feeling that things are about to hit the fan whenever he shows up.
His motives are quite simple. He fights because it is what makes him who he is. It's his identity since that's all he was ever born to do.
He is a villain that is capable of sympathizing yet is still completely cruel and ruthless at the same time. Quite multifaceted in that he will respect an opponent yet will completely decimate another due to following a different ideology.
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Nox (Wakfu) is a well constructed one when you analyze it
His motivation is actually really neat, he wants to go back in time to save his family and undo all the death he has caused in his quest to absorb the energy of the universe, Wakfu. At the end of season 1, he manages to go back in time... a few minutes, and he had already sucked so much Wakfu out of many important living beings that he just gives up on life.
Probably one of the few villains I know who fully knows that what they are doing is wrong, but still do it because they think they can repair it
His motivation is actually really neat, he wants to go back in time to save his family and undo all the death he has caused in his quest to absorb the energy of the universe, Wakfu. At the end of season 1, he manages to go back in time... a few minutes, and he had already sucked so much Wakfu out of many important living beings that he just gives up on life.
Probably one of the few villains I know who fully knows that what they are doing is wrong, but still do it because they think they can repair it
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Kamen Rider
Dan Kuroto.The dude is a meme god.His madness is something i like.
Dan Kuroto.The dude is a meme god.His madness is something i like.
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Bill Cipher
The dude's great, he's the perfect balance of both comedic and threatening. The fact that he's pretty much the driving force behind the entirety of the show and he does it so casually as well. He's probably my favorite cosmic threat-type villain out there.
The dude's great, he's the perfect balance of both comedic and threatening. The fact that he's pretty much the driving force behind the entirety of the show and he does it so casually as well. He's probably my favorite cosmic threat-type villain out there.
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My favorite character of all time is a villain; Monika
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Chartate101 said:
PewDiePie Hej Monika Remix by Party In Backyard
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