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[Asriel77]

The dragonborn vs sonic archie pre Genesis



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votes for sonic:1

votes for dragon slayer:2

incon:

 

[ApeXeno]

They don't allow stomps on the site.

 

[Asriel77]

not a stomp. dragonborn gets daedric artifacts.

 

[ApeXeno]

Sonic is Low 1-C whereas Viking Man is Low 2-C. I don't even think this thread is allowed.

 

[Asriel77]

daedric artifacts are low 1-C.
his profile also has 1-C hax

since both are pretty much hax based this all comes down to hax. its not a stomp thread.
speed is also equal.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Considering this is TES, I won't be surprised if he had some smurfy shit that can make him able to defeat the rat.

 

[Asriel77]

what does sonic have that defends against thu'um?

 

[ApeXeno]

Sonic has Mid-High Regen (assuming this is Ultra Sonic), Types 3 and 8 Immortality, and resists the effects of a lot of Dragonborn's hax while also being able to one shot.

What's an argument for Dragonborn? And what is Thu'um?

 

[Asriel77]

thu'um effects alduin who has immortality types 1 3 5 4 and 8. alduin also has low godly regen.

 

[Asriel77]

thu'um is a form of tonal magic, uses the voice essence and focuses it into a shout that can be used in offensive and defensive ways.

 

[ApeXeno]

It doesn't say that it affects Type 8 at all.

 

[Asriel77]

not on dovahkiins profile, however since it defeated alduin and effected alduin it does have type 8. alduin has type 8 on his profile

 

[ApeXeno]

Well the profile only says 1 through 5, I think they would've added 8 to the profile.

Also with Sonic's Fate Hax still there, I think Sonic can one shot his Low 2-C durability so those are two win cons right now.

 

[Asriel77]

Well the profile only says 1 through 5, I think they would've added 8 to the profile.

Also with Sonic's Fate Hax still there, I think Sonic can one shot his Low 2-C durability so those are two win cons right now.

dragonborn resist fate hax via his acasuality which makes him an impossipoint outside reality and beyond casuality.

wouldnt matter if his profile doesnt say thu'um effects type 8, if its on alduins profile which means this wiki fully accepts it otherwise this wiki wouldnt be saying that the dragonborn > alduin otherwise based off basic scaling which shows the dragonborn defeating alduin via thu'um

 

[ApeXeno]

dragonborn resist fate hax via his acasuality which makes him an impossipoint outside reality and beyond casuality.

On his profile, it specifically says that he has Acausality Negation of Type 4 since his Fate Hax can affect Second Tenure Mammoth Mogul who has it on his profile.

wouldnt matter if his profile doesnt say thu'um effects type 8, if its on alduins profile which means this wiki fully accepts it otherwise this wiki wouldnt be saying that the dragonborn > alduin otherwise based off basic scaling which shows the dragonborn defeating alduin via thu'um

We go off what the profiles specifically tells us. Maybe this should be a fix, but it only says it affects Types 1, 3, 4 and 5, therefore Sonic's Type 8 is still in effect and won't be affected unless stated otherwise.

 

[Shmooply]

Yea, it's a stomp... in Dovahkiin's favour.

This is base Archie Sonic, who is low 2-C, so he and Dovahkiin are comparable in attack potency.

His fate hax is meaningless since their type 4 acausality is far superior than the type 4 acausals that Sonic can fate hax (1-A fate resistance GG)

And, no, the daedric artifacts aren't low 1-C, they're somewhere around 1-B.

Base Sonic also doesn't seem to have acausality, so Dovahkiin annihilates him with Prisoner Metaphysics.

 

[Asriel77]

once again the wiki accepts type 8 simply because alduin has his profile listed at having type 8 immortality.
and regardless ill steelman, type 4 acasuals in elder scrolls are above archie sonics because time in elder scrolls > archie.
how does sonic get past daedric artifacts?

 

[ApeXeno]

So if it is a stomp thread, it still isn't allowed.

 

[Asriel77]

im not sure whether daedric artifacts are even 1-B. last i checked arent they only at that level if wielded by a daedric prince?

 

[ApeXeno]

Alright so it's not Base Sonic, he just said Archie Pre-Genesis so idk where you got that from

If he has 1-B hax, that's a shit stomp in Dragonborn's favor

 

[ApeXeno]

We are going to assume that Sonic's in his strongest form (Ultra Form).

Sonic can open up a portal to the Zone of Silence immediately, as this is what he does against Ugly Naugus the moment he transforms. He also has the AP and Durability advantage so he can possibly one shot.

 

[Asriel77]

those 1b hax arent specified tho and sonic has greater combat range.

sonic may be able to bfr but ill wait for others to comment regarding this

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

those 1b hax arent specified tho and sonic has greater combat range.

sonic may be able to bfr but ill wait for others to comment regarding this

Changes nothing, prisoner metaphysics kicks in and Dovahkiin yeets him into a high 1-B realm

 

[ApeXeno]

So this is a stomp thread?

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Yes