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That was not space. Even Bardock and other fodder saiyans can go high up in atmosphereAlexcar3000 said:
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Vegeta vs Beta Ray Bill
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Needing very little oxygen is still not the same as needing no oxygen, though. Goku got to fill his lungs full of sea-level oxygen before going into the upper atmosphere. He didn't start the fight there and just begin breathing. Besides, as I already said, Goku himself confirmed he was in danger of drowning, and Beerus wasn't really doing anything besides just holding him, down there.The Living Tribunal1 said:
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Anyway, i'll go for Vegeta on this one, if Beta Ray Bill really has just superhuman+ combat speed (the heck marvel?), he would be like a statue for Vegeta, and Vegeta has more AP than Bill's dura can handle.
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well in the upper atmosphere, im pretty sure he opened his mouth on many occassions, and he did let out a lot of airAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
but he was still able to survive from the very little oxygen present there
so logically, if he were to hgold even a lungfull of air on sea level it should last him at the very least hours
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Vegeta's not going into MFTL+, though. Especially not on the level of Bill.Jeune fou said:
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Didn't Vegeta already die almost immediately in RoF after Earth exploded? I don't think that will be retconned since Bardock also fought Frieza in high atmoshphere just that SSG Goku. They can survive in high atmosphere as long as the planet is still intact, apparently
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Considering this is Dragon Ball, I'm going to go with the repeated instances of Goku nearly running out of breath as opposed to theorizing about how long he should be able to breathe, especially since the series makes it abundantly clear.The Living Tribunal1 said:
Beerus doesn't need oxygen.
Whis doesn't need oxygen.
Buu sure as hell doesn't need oxygen.
Saiyans need oxygen.
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but if it is retconned, and if he lives
will the saiyans in space arguemtn be brough up again
(because a lot of things are hapenning differently this time)
will the saiyans in space arguemtn be brough up again
(because a lot of things are hapenning differently this time)
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Yes, he did. I'm also fairly certain they made it clear it was because he couldn't breathe, not because he got owned by a planet bust.Faisal Shourov said:
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but this time, if that doesnt happen
in either
A- the scene doesnt happen at all
or
B- Vegeta is seen floating in space just fine
will that change anything?
in either
A- the scene doesnt happen at all
or
B- Vegeta is seen floating in space just fine
will that change anything?
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@TLT1
If Vegeta or anyone else makes it abundantly clear that Saiyans don't need oxygen to breathe (which would be odd considering just a few episodes ago, God Aura Goku needed oxygen to breathe), then yes. If it's more of just guesswork, then no.
If Vegeta or anyone else makes it abundantly clear that Saiyans don't need oxygen to breathe (which would be odd considering just a few episodes ago, God Aura Goku needed oxygen to breathe), then yes. If it's more of just guesswork, then no.
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You're right. here are the scans. Frieza can also survive in vacuum like Buu and the GodsAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
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Except it's made extremely clear that he wasn't?Lejon123! said:
Plus, you seem to be forgetting the fact that I pointed out Goku very nearly drowning in DB Super, which is the most recent canon material.
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Is Bardock in space too? Saiyans were capable of flying very high in the atmoshphere from the very beginningLejon123! said:
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also, how fast is beta ray bill's combat speed?
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According to the morons who believe Tom Bevelont or whatever his name is, it's superhumanThe Living Tribunal1 said:
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lol whatPietro Maximoff said:
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I hope they fix it, because a being that's High Multy-Galaxy+ and is also MFTL+, but is unable to breath in space is utterly ridiculous.
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That's absurdly ********. Whoever made that databook has pea brain. I wish I could say worse but this site is child friendly -_-Pietro Maximoff said:
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I feel yaFaisal Shourov said:
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Those who watched episode 12 and say God Goku can survive in space didn't read the manga. Bardock and fodder saiyans also did the same, but they can't survive in outer spaceAlexcar3000 said:
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You know I've been repeatedly giving examples of why he can't, and Faisal even posted a scan of Whis directly going, "Oh look Vegeta died because he can't survive in a vacuum", right? Vegeta who was SSGSS at the time, right? You seem to just be ignoring facts to get around obvious character weaknesses, which is exceedingly annoying, especially considering I've seen this same "argument" hundreds of times, before.Lejon123! said:
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Yo Azathoth keep the Bardock scan handy for future use, so that this topic is not brought up again
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Yeah, gonna do that.Faisal Shourov said:
As I said before, I'd have no problem with saiyans being able to breathe in space, but only if WE GET ACTUAL PROOF OF THEM BEING ABLE TO SURVIVE IN A VACUUM.
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Maybe Whis will solve that problem, like saying they can use their Godly Ki to fix that weakness, like wrapping their bodies with godly aura or something.Faisal Shourov said:
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-facedesk-Lejon123! said:
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Lol
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-repeatedly bangs head against wall-Lejon123! said:
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Bro. Look at the posts, above.
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I...what?
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