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This is Pre-Super Vegeta.
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Vegeta vs Beta Ray Bill
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I think that Beta Ray Bill, his mjolnyr its so much over power
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I believe this is an easy win for Vegeta,Beta Ray likely has much lower speed given what's on his profile and his durability is merely star+ his hax is also nothing impressive.
Vegeta.
Vegeta.
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When it comes to vs Threads with Marvel characters please equalize speed....
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Not until you prove there was a speed downgrade.Pietro Maximoff said:
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^Ask Ant
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Pre-Super vegeta High diff
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If this is pre super Vegeta then why use a SSGSS pic...
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Why not?CHILLVIBEZZ said:
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Because Hyper is illuminati...:v but seriously, like he said why not?
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Lol K then
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majin or not?
cuz majin vegeta ssj2 was on par with goku ssj2- and thats 25 percent of ssj3 goku- which is one fourth of multi ss lvl
majin vegeta ssj2 wins without much trouble
ssj2 vegeta wud eventually win possibly after a close fight
cuz majin vegeta ssj2 was on par with goku ssj2- and thats 25 percent of ssj3 goku- which is one fourth of multi ss lvl
majin vegeta ssj2 wins without much trouble
ssj2 vegeta wud eventually win possibly after a close fight
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Let's compare stats
Buu Saga Vegeta
Buu Saga Vegeta
- AP - Solar System Level+
- Durability - Solar System Level+
- Speed - Relativistic
- AP - Solar System Level+
- Durability - Star Level+
- Speed - MFTL+ travel speed
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Proof?Lejon123! said:
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It's MFTL travel speed. Not really useful in a fight. And if we go by the marvel guides, Bill should only be superhuman in combat speed.
If someone has MFTL+ travel speed, i'd find it very, very odd if they have less than at least Relativistic+ or C movement speed.
If someone has MFTL+ travel speed, i'd find it very, very odd if they have less than at least Relativistic+ or C movement speed.
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It's MFTL travel speed. Not really useful in a fight. And if we go by the marvel guides, Bill should only be superhuman in combat speed.
If someone has MFTL+ travel speed, i'd find it very, very odd if they have less than at least Relativistic+ or C movement speed.
It certainly is odd, or even somewhat stupid. But the fact remains that marvels head honcho and the official guides have stated the combat speed of these character as being only slightly superhuman.
If someone has MFTL+ travel speed, i'd find it very, very odd if they have less than at least Relativistic+ or C movement speed.
It certainly is odd, or even somewhat stupid. But the fact remains that marvels head honcho and the official guides have stated the combat speed of these character as being only slightly superhuman.
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^Marvelverse is probably the most inconsistent verse in fiction, rivalling video games.
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I think we should make a rule that with most marvel characters in vs threads we should have Speed equalized due to the ludicrous tom b. statement and marvel speed downgrade.....
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Travel speed is actually still pretty useful in a lot of fights (even though Bill has demonstrated MFTL combat speed like many other characters but whatever lol), especially when your opponent can't survive in the vacuum of space and it'd be relatively easy for you to just blow up whatever they were standing on and leave them dead.Sheoth said:
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^ThisAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
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Even galactus has superhuman combat speed ....lol
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Agreed, he can simply nuke the planet if it's a bother. Vegeta can't use IT like Goku anywayAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
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Isn't Pre-Super Vegeta MFTL going by the recent upgrades?
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Nah. FTL+.Alexcar3000 said:
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Also the nuke planet thing is implying that they're somehow aware of having slow combat speed compared to their opponents or know that their opponent can't breathe in space.
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Well, FTL+ if we use the 17.48 second thing (which I don't agree because it's very flawed), and MFTL if we use the 4 second one.Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
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if we use 4 seconds, then frieza in namek saga becomes mftl lolAlexcar3000 said:
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It would still likely be FTL+ (since they're both pretty flawed, but if we go with 4 seconds, we come to the issue of that being a humongous outlier compared to every other attack up until the Cell Saga), but we're currently having a discussion, on that.Alexcar3000 said:
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No they didn't. If they did then Bardock and other saiyans also fought in spaceLejon123! said:
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Upper atmosphere, actually. Also, the fact that post-SSG aura Goku could still drown pretty much confirms saiyans still need air to breathe. They can hold their breath a long time, but they still need oxygen.Lejon123! said:
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they need very vey little oxygen
so one mouthfull or lungfull of air in sea level should give them enough air to live for hours, since the upper atmosphere barely has air
so one mouthfull or lungfull of air in sea level should give them enough air to live for hours, since the upper atmosphere barely has air
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We clearly saw Beerus & Goku fighting in space perfectly...but for some reason it's just the water that gave Goku trouble, probably an inconsistency, but we could at least say he can hold his breath for a long time when battling in space.Faisal Shourov said:
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No, I'm pretty sure it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less time than that, considering Goku was in danger of drowning, and didn't say something absurd like, "If I stay down here for seven more hours, I'm gonna run out of breath!".The Living Tribunal1 said:
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well the upper atmosphere has only a few molecules per square ccAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
compare that to billions on the ground....
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