Uriel (Bastard!!) VS Wang Wei (JOTFDE) | Battle for the 1st strongest Non-smurf 3-C

[Rikimarox2]

Speed is equalized.

SBA is assumed.

Both are 3-C.

Uriel: 0

Fate Dominating Emperor: 0

Incon: 0

 

[Robo432343]

but satan is not 3-C
you mean both 3-A right?
if this is for 3-C then use uriel

 

[Rikimarox2]

but satan is not 3-C
you mean both 3-A right?
if this is for 3-C then use uriel

My b, read it as 3-C for some reason. Changed it to Uriel.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Anyways, like, what does Uriel do? The whole dispel bound seems a bit weird. It looks like Pnull, so, would just resisting powernull be enough or is there other stuff that is needed?

Also, they can seemingly recover from history/Causality (?) erasure, but what about Fate erasure? Causality, Karma, whatever are just subsets of Fate in-verse, along with space-time shenanigans. And Fate surpasses time (Direct statement, though on what it grants is unknown as it currently stands), with those who had a portion of their history erased, the River of Fate still had everything that had happened in that erased time.

Oh and, they seem to exist in 3 different planes? Would interdimensional stuff be enough? For feats, Wang Wei's divine sense alone is able to see hidden dimensions, secret places, etc... and penetrate "countless" layers of space. So idk if that's enough.

 

[Robo432343]

Also, they can seemingly recover from history/Causality (?) erasure, but what about Fate erasure? Causality, Karma, whatever are just subsets of Fate in-verse, along with space-time shenanigans. And Fate surpasses time (Direct statement, though on what it grants is unknown as it currently stands), with those who had a portion of their history erased, the River of Fate still had everything that had happened in that erased time.

I think Uriel can recover from fate erasure

Enhanced Acausality (Type 4: Souls transcend Spirits the exact same way the latter being superior/unbound by the Material Universe's space-time system. Fate, causality and space-time in verse are directly linked with each other)

Eternal Atoms also act as the Book of Fate, recording one's existence throughout The Law of Cause and Effect, allowing them to perfectly regenerate from the space-time/historical as well as any other less abstract erasure than their concepts type 1)

 

[Rikimarox2]

The Acausality is useless here, and even then, WW has his own Acausality, along with it potentially being layered due to higher worlds having stronger Rivers of fate (I think it needs a CRT though, not sure).

Additionally, is Fate in Bastard above time? Like if someone got historically erased, would they still have their fate? Because for example, there is a Nexus of Fate, which is an event that will absolutely happen. Even when characters went to the future to bypass it, it still happened.

Regardless, can Uriel resist WW's aura? One glance kinda just PNulls them, paralyzes them, and destroys their soul/mind. Or hell, just straight out punching them and destroying them on info 2 level? Their regen doesn't cover Info type 2, and unlike the other aspects, there is no reason for his info to be across 3 dimensions (If we assume WW can't reach, even tho I think he can).

 

[Rikimarox2]

BTW, who is like, the main supporter of Bastard!! ? Seol, who is listed as a knowledgeable member, hasn't been in the wiki for like 6 months now. Painkiller07, who seems to have made the blogs about Bastard!!, hasn't been online since 2024 February. Aside from the other 2 in the supporters list, is there anyone else?

 

[Orioreeem]

WW can even see causality threads, so he'll definitely know where all of his existance is even if Uriel exists on three planes of existance. Tho if there aren't any supporters left to debate on the match don't know what to do