Unohana Vs Zoro

[Politebunny7]

Roronoa Zoro (Post-Timeskip)

Roronoa Zoro (ロロノア・ゾロ?), also known by his former epithet of "Pirate Hunter" after the Raid his new title of "The King of Hell", is the premier swordsman of the Straw Hat Pirates and a member of the Monster Trio. Recruited as a mildly notorious bounty hunter (hence his “Pirate Hunter” moniker)...

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Retsu Unohana

Retsu Unohana (卯ノ花 烈, Unohana Retsu), formerly known as Yachiru Unohana (卯ノ花 八千流, Unohana Yachiru), was the captain of the Fourth Division in the Gotei 13. She was one of the oldest and most experienced captains, and was the Soul Society's best healer, as well as the first person to wield the...

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Speed equal
5-C for both
Take place in the Muken

 

[Robo432343]

she bad

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Senjumaru > Unohana

 

[Apotheosis69]

Might have to go with Yachiru, unless ofc proven wrong

Cus she has All kinds of Kido.

She can keep Zoro in place with all kinds of Bakudo: Sajo Sabaku, Rikujokoro, Hyapporankan and Kuyo Shibari, then use insane Hado like Kurohitsugi and Goryūtenmetsu

 

[Kidkinsey]

How long before this turns into a skill argument. Anywho leaning zoro because his numerous amps and observation haki to aid in dodging certain kido as well as aid him in close combat

 

[Johner2133451]

How long before this turns into a skill argument. Anywho leaning zoro because his numerous amps and observation haki to aid in dodging certain kido as well as aid him in close combat

Same

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

How long before this turns into a skill argument.

That won't be necessary, as much as I'd want that

Should've chosen Mihawk if you wanted to go there

Anywho, Unohana has soul invulnerability, which Haki can't interact with at all, so nothing Zoro does can hurt her. Meanwhile, one attack to his soul and he's toast.

Anywho leaning zoro because his numerous amps and observation haki to aid in dodging certain kido as well as aid him in close combat

Unohana starts in Bankai, so although she can use Kido, her main move is slashing dura neg corrosive blood that she surrounds the battlefield with, which she can do very quickly. I could argue the skillfulness compared to Zoro and argue how Zoro's gonna have a shitty time, but honestly this is a stomp as is, one of these kills Zoro from soul damage and Zoro can't hurt her because of the above.

Post-Unohana Training Zaraki would be more entertaining and thematic, but that wouldn't work either.

 

[Kidkinsey]

That won't be necessary, as much as I'd want that

Should've chosen Mihawk if you wanted to go there

Anywho, Unohana has soul invulnerability, which Haki can't interact with at all, so nothing Zoro does can hurt her. Meanwhile, one attack to his soul and he's toast.

Unohana starts in Bankai, so although she can use Kido, her main move is slashing dura neg corrosive blood that she surrounds the battlefield with, which she can do very quickly. I could argue the skillfulness compared to Zoro and argue how Zoro's gonna have a shitty time, but honestly this is a stomp as is, one of these kills Zoro from soul damage and Zoro can't hurt her because of the above.

Post-Unohana Training Zaraki would be more entertaining and thematic, but that wouldn't work either.

There have been one piece vs Bleach character threads before so I'm gonna assume OP characters can attack bleach ones

The dura neg blood may surround him but what EXACTLY does it do. Is it some blood touch you and you die hax?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

There have been one piece vs Bleach character threads before so I'm gonna assume OP characters can attack bleach ones

They can't. Haki was never shown to interact on the soul level aside from Kenbun seeing souls. Some DFs could, but we're talking about Roronoa f**king Zoro, the dude with not a trace of a DF in his system. I honestly think they just saw the resistance to soul manipulation and thought "hmm, let's fight Bleach!" I honestly don't know how those matches even happened in the first place.

The dura neg blood may surround him but what EXACTLY does it do.

The blood is extremely corrosive and it melts you away, down to the bone

Is it some blood touch you and you die hax?

It wouldn't really be for a Bleach character seeing as fodder souls have immo type 2 and Kenpachi was fighting her without muscles on his body (albeit Unohana was also healing him) but uh, this is also on a spiritual level, meaning this is gonna hit Zoro's astral self, his soul is taking that damage.

 

[Tyri456]

She goes Bankai Domain Expansion and Zoro instantly became a skeleton via blood and acid manipulation

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

She goes Bankai Domain Expansion and Zoro instantly became a skeleton via blood and acid manipulation

Kinda wished Yuji had this kinda DE ngl.

 

[Johner2133451]

They can't. Haki was never shown to interact on the soul level aside from Kenbun seeing souls. Some DFs could, but we're talking about Roronoa f**king Zoro, the dude with not a trace of a DF in his system. I honestly think they just saw the resistance to soul manipulation and thought "hmm, let's fight Bleach!" I honestly don't know how those matches even happened in the first place.

The blood is extremely corrosive and it melts you away, down to the bone

It wouldn't really be for a Bleach character seeing as fodder souls have immo type 2 and Kenpachi was fighting her without muscles on his body (albeit Unohana was also healing him) but uh, this is also on a spiritual level, meaning this is gonna hit Zoro's astral self, his soul is taking that damage.

So to fight a bleach char, do you need soul manip only or NPI works fine too

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

So to fight a bleach char, do you need soul manip only or NPI works fine too

You need Soul Manipulation to damage the souls and the required NPI to touch them.

 

[Johner2133451]

You need Soul Manipulation to damage the souls and the required NPI to touch them.

If a character only has NPI for interacting with souls but has no soul manip, would it still be useless?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

If a character only has NPI for interacting with souls but has no soul manip, would it still be useless?

Well if they can touch souls I'm certain that would work, so long as they can harm them.

rn I'm on vacation, so I'm not in the best mindset in terms of specifics.

 

[Johner2133451]

Well if they can touch souls I'm certain that would work, so long as they can harm them.

rn I'm on vacation, so I'm not in the best mindset in terms of specifics.

I also heard from other people that invulnerability can be bypassed with a higher dimensional AP. So would a 2-C character like Krillin (he has no soul manip or NPI against souls) can harm the average bleach character?

 

[Excellence616]

I also heard from other people that invulnerability can be bypassed with a higher dimensional AP. So would a 2-C character like Krillin (he has no soul manip or NPI against souls) can harm the average bleach character?

2-C isn't higher dimensional

 

[Johner2133451]

2-C isn't higher dimensional

Isn't 2-C 4D AP tho?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Isn't 2-C 4D AP tho?

In AP only. A character who is 4D would have a higher-dimensional existence (which DB peeps don't have)

 

[Johner2133451]

In AP only. A character who is 4D would have a higher-dimensional existence (which DB peeps don't have)

Yeah like in my original question

I also heard from other people that invulnerability can be bypassed with a higher dimensional AP. So would a 2-C character like Krillin (he has no soul manip or NPI against souls) can harm the average bleach character?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Yeah like in my original question

To answer that, no. Higher dimensional AP cannot override hax, you need higher dimensional hax or resistences