Unicron Profile

[KarmodF]

@Azzy

I think the statement comes from the Revenge of the Fallen novelization, hence the title in the right and the reference to Sam, thing is that they talk about energies and mathematics to refer the dimensions, something that for Universes just wouldnt make sense to refer.

If anything this is quite consistant with the Low 1-B above and Alternity's High 1-C.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

That's not how it works.

He specifically mentions entering these dimensions as well, which is more in line with universes. Other universes like this could have their own physics and mathematics different from the main universe.

The entire context of this quote, which would tell us which type of "dimension" is being referred to in a case where it could be either, is missing.

Without that context, it can't be used. That's why I'm asking if we have the context.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think he should be put back at Lo 1-B, honestly

 

[Phoenix821]

If that happens I'm making Unicron Vs Lord English

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Yes

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I agree with Azathot. Good to see Transformer God tiers making a comeback I remember seeing those profiles years ago.

 

[KarmodF]

Until I get the scan to analyze Low 1-B seems right.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Low 1-B or at least low 1-B is fine

 

[Antvasima]

Should I unlock the profile for you?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Please unlock it, yes. Thank you.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will do so. Sorry about not replying earlier. I was asleep.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

You can lock it again

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Read_this_post]

About the seventeen dimenisons quote.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Revenge_of_the_Fallen_issue_2

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Revenge_of_the_Fallen_(novel)

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Foundation_issue_1

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Albert_Einstei

These are all of the quotes i found for seventeen dimensions. To navigate quickly use CTRL-F and search for either "dimension" or "seventeen" if that doesnt work.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think possibly 1-B is fine

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That specifically says "This dimension" implying it's refering to universe and not spatiotemporal dimension, so I disagree with upgrading him.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Though, Unicron is very high into Low 1-B, so maybe at least Low 1-B. But anything more seems like too much speculation.

 

[Read_this_post]

Sometimes the verse seems to use dimensions in both ways. Sometimes it might mean universes or dimensions. However transformers does have infinite universes so 17 dimensions wouldnt make that much sense. However these do seem to take place in the revenge of the fallen film. Arent the movies non cannon to the original? In which case it can be disregarded altogether.

 

[Read_this_post]

Although two of them also refer to the revenge of the fallen novel as well. And einsteins theory of relativity is brought up with those seventeen dimensions saying that it doesnt adress the other 17 dimensions. And this dimensions can also mean the third dimensions so im not sure.

Edit: The quote "claiming that Einstein's theory of relativity is only a valid observation of thisdimension, not the other seventeen" Might be somewhat of a hint

Albert einsteins relativity theory is pretty much physics in our universe. In parallel universes physics would naturally work the same. However in higher dimensions physics would start to work differently including universes in those dimensions (noteably the 7th dimension). So wouldnt it make more sense for it to mean spatial dimensions?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

"Sam covers the chalkboard in Cyberglyphics, babbling about the expeditions of Cybertronian explorers, claiming that Einstein's theory of relativity is only a valid observation of this dimension, not the other seventeen."


"He quickly reads Colan's book in seconds, and then stands up and says that Einstei was wrong about the theory of relativity. It's only accurate if you take this dimension into account, but false if you take the other seventeen."

This is 100% talking about our universe and using "dimension" in its more sci-fi, parallel universe sense.

Low 1-B is likely fine though, as others have expressed.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"Sam covers the chalkboard in Cyberglyphics, babbling about the expeditions of Cybertronian explorers, claiming that Einstein's theory of relativity is only a valid observation of this dimension, not the other seventeen."

"He quickly reads Colan's book in seconds, and then stands up and says that Einstei was wrong about the theory of relativity. It's only accurate if you take this dimension into account, but false if you take the other seventeen."

This is 100% talking about our universe and using "dimension" in its more sci-fi, parallel universe sense.

Low 1-B is likely fine though, as others have expressed.

The profile was already edited, it's Low 1-B now.

 

[Antvasima]

So is there anything left to do here, or should we close this thread?

 

[KarmodF]

I guess.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will close it then.