Undertale

[Antvasima]

As far as I understood, Azathoth said that the revisions were unnecessary, correct?

 

[Magi_Hussie]

As far as I understood, Azathoth said that the revisions were unnecessary, correct?

No, Azzy said he was fine with adding the revisions to the profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

Hm.

I mean, it's not technically wrong, but as I said before it's probably not nevessary. One would likely just use regular Frisk's profile.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

This re-edited profile has different explanations for Genocide Frisk.

 

[Antvasima]

Where did Azathoth agree to these changes?

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Where did Azathoth agree to these changes?

@Azathoth:

"3. The resurrection thing seems fine, since Asriel directly states Frisk was indeed being killed, but neither resetting time nor exiting the game world."

"8. Mettaton's weaknesses seem fine."

"9. Undyne's weaknesses seem fine."

Azathoth approved the weaknesses and along with everything else I listed in this thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Which profiles do you need unlocked? However, make sure to only perform the edits that he agreed with, and nothing else.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Okay. Which profiles do you need unlocked? However, make sure to only perform the edits that he agreed with, and nothing else.

Chara, Frisk, Human SOULs, Undyne, Flowey, Mettaton, Dr. Alphys, Amalgamates, and the Low to High Tier monsters.

 

[Antvasima]

Oh jeez. That's quite a lot. I would appreciate if you could ask some other administrator or content moderator to help you out, as I am extremely busy with the daily backlog.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Oh jeez. That's quite a lot. I would appreciate if you could ask some other administrator or content moderator to help you out, as I am extremely busy with the daily backlog.

No need, I got it covered.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

3. The resurrection thing seems fine, since Asriel directly states Frisk was indeed being killed, but neither resetting time nor exiting the game world

8. Mettaton's weaknesses seem fine.

9. Undyne's weaknesses seem fine.

and then later, "I mean, it's not technically wrong, but as I said before it's probably not necessary. One would likely just use regular Frisk's profile."

"Azathoth approved the weaknesses and along with everything else I listed in this thread." is just false, I just looked through the thread and those are the only things Azathoth said were fine

 

[Antvasima]

That is correct. No other changes than the ones he approved are allowed.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

1. Willpower Manipulation is supposed to be linked for Determination in some Undertale profiles that doesn't link it since Willpower = Determination isn't it? So it should be fine.

It even proves that their are other names for Willpower and you can find Determination mentioned here: http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Indomitable_Will

2. The Human SOULs just needed links to their powers & abilities, that's all since none of them were actually linked already.

3. Azzy allowed the re-edited Chara profile.

4. Azzy allowed Limited Impact Absorption in these responses:

My reply: "6. Since Chara using True reset is a Omnipresental attack and Asriel can use Danmaku which is also one of the limitations of Limited Impact Absorption being unable to take multiple attacks at once, then Mettaton having "Limited Impact Absorption" should be acceptable."

Azzy's response: "6. I don't have a problem with that. Just as long as the scale is specified."

5. I already did the scaling for both Mettaton & Undyne properly, so they are good to go.

6. Undyne the Undyning is considered as a transformation since it changes her appearance & makes her more powerful.

7. The weaknesses are also allowed & the Keys can be used as well.

8. Flowey & Chara has an extra type of immortality since the ability to SAVE and LOAD is Low-Godly regen for Type 3, so:

Chara (Type 3 and 8)

Flowey (Type 1 and 3) b/c we never seen Flowey actually age before due to his Time Traveling abilities.

9. I just figured out that all of the Low to High Tier monsters are weak to hatred which should be added in all of the Undertale monsters weaknesses and here's the quote that proves this claim: http://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Monsters

"And the crueller the intentions of our enemies, the more their attacks will hurt us."

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Why is there another key on Chara's profile?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. I told Magi RobloxG to only perform the changes that you agreed with, and nothing else whatsoever.

 

[Antvasima]

If he has performed inaccurate changes to the Undertale profiles, you can revert them if you wish.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Why is there another key on Chara's profile?

B/c Genocide Frisk & Chara are 2 different beings in Genocide Route. Chara only showed up at the end of the Route while Genocide Frisk has doing all of the genocide throughout the entire game since we can clearly recoginze their appearance changes in the game, so that's why I added 2 keys.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Why does Mettaton have Multiversal Dura when Azathoth never accepted it?

 

[Antvasima]

If Magi RobloxG has performed several unaccepted revisions, the profiles that he edited should preferably be reverted to their previous states.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Why does Mettaton have Multiversal Dura when Azathoth never accepted it?

Azzy was referring about the scales being specified for Mettaton's stats, so he would be talking about his durability.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

He said that AT = "Power level" and DF = Benefits to dura

But you're treating it as "AT = AP and DF = Dura"

With your logic, Frisk brings Flowey's dura all the way down to Wall level at most and he still takes Multiverse level attacks

 

[Magi_Hussie]

He said that AT = "Power level" and DF = Benefits to dura
But you're treating it as "AT = AP and DF = Dura"

With your logic, Frisk brings Flowey's dura all the way down to Wall level at most and he still takes Multiverse level attacks

For Photoshop/God Flowey's case, that's a different story.

 

[Antvasima]

@JustSomeWeirdo

I would appreciate if you could check up Magi RobloxG's edits, to see if he has made any other major unallowed changes. Doing so is technically considered as vandalism and a bannable offense.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Alright, in order that I find them

1. Undyne's dura was lowered to Small Town level even though Azathoth has specified how stats work in UT

2. I do not believe that Azathoth agreed to any of Mettaton's dura changes...

3. Added a weakness to Frisk's profile that wasn't in the OP, along with some other small changes to the profile that weren't discussed

4. Gave the SOULs Reality Warping out of nowhere

Now I'm revisiting pages in case I missed anything

5. Resistance to Soul Manipulation for Mettaton, which I cannot find anywhere in this thread

6. Almagamates given "Immunity to Mind Manipulation via being mindless" which is both false and not listed on this thread

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you very much for the help. This may warrant a ban for Magi RobloxG, depending on what Azathoth thinks.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

This was more something performed out of ignorance than malice. I do not think it is ban worthy, but I will not say the same if anything of this sort is done, again.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Should we go through and revert all of his Undertale edits?

 

[Antvasima]

We would have to update some of the striking strengths afterwards though.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yes, except the ones approved, earlier.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I do not know enough about Undertale to handle such specifics. Would you be willing to handle it if I unlock the pages that you specify JustSomeWeirdo?

 

[Antvasima]

Magi RobloxG attempted to delete this thread, and ask Promestein to allow him to perform more false changes here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/764409

Given that his behaviour can no longer be seen as simply out of ignorance, I will give him a 3 month ban.

 

[Antvasima]

In any case, I would still appreciate if either JustSomeWeirdo or Azathoth could try to fix the pages that he messed up.

 

[Antvasima]

I have now attempted to undo all of his changes.