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Ultra Necrozma Scaling

the only problem with the calc is the fact its low end assumes the 13 Kly distance is the same as that of Ultra megalopolis and earth through Ultra space.
 
@jman If what you say is true then you should provide images because it puts the legitimacy of the 13KY low end into question.
 
AguilaR101 said:
@jman
If what you say is true then you should provide images because it puts the legitimacy of the 13KY low end into question.
This has been successfully debunked in other threads, focus on the OP.
 
Going by occam's razor it's better to assume Necrozma lit up the place in a short timeframe, as it would be ridiculous for the game to outright state that he can light up the world... when it can't light up the world.

Regardless of the timeframe, that would mean Necrozma still generated all of that energy; energy is energy, and it doesn't come from nowhere. We see no statements that Necrozma was pulling from outside sources or anything, and the statement of "sharing its light with them" implies that it contains all of that energy within it and then some.
 
ArbitraryNumbers said:
Going by occam's razor it's better to assume Necrozma lit up the place in a short timeframe, as it would be ridiculous for the game to outright state that he can light up the world... when it can't light up the world.
Regardless of the timeframe, that would mean Necrozma still generated all of that energy; energy is energy, and it doesn't come from nowhere. We see no statements that Necrozma was pulling from outside sources or anything, and the statement of "sharing its light with them" implies that it contains all of that energy within it and then some.
Exactly, the only time he was seen pulling from outside sources is with Solgaleo and Lunala, who are only 6-B but provide enough power for him to become whole, meaning either PIS or plot hole.
 
Like Saikou said, that only means that Solgaleo and Lunala are 4-B as well, as they powered him up. There's zero reason as to why we can't scale them like that.
 
I personally do not care about the upgrades, but things will get complicated if fodder pokemon or the other leggendaries fights evenly with them........
 
so no one scales

Being the catalyst for someone to regain higher power =/= being comparable to said higher power.

unless there are explicit statements to the contrary.
 
The thing never used the light on an entire universe though, never stated, assuming it did, why? Why though, it was never implied or stated.
 
AguilaR101 said:
so no one scales
Being the catalyst for someone to regain higher power =/= being comparable to said higher power.

unless there are explicit statements to the contrary.
That's because Solgaleo specifically contain the light necessary to repower necrozma.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Actually @Dark Im gonna make a post on that tomorrow explaining the opposite if I can.
Please do not do that, it's a sad waste of time. This possible upgrade will complicate the scaling, but what you and Pachi might plan will turn the scaling more terrible than what it is currently. It will turn every Pokémon and Trainer at MFTL+ 4-B to Infinite 2-C, which is the definition of garbage powerscaling.
 
Please do not do that, it's a sad waste of time. This possible upgrade will complicate the scaling, but what you and Pachi might plan will turn the scaling more terrible than what it is currently. It will turn every Pokémon and Trainer at MFTL+ 4-B to Infinite 2-C, which is the definition of garbage powerscaling.

That isnt what im trying to do really. Ik it could end up being messy but I have my own problems with this that i'd like to bring up later at a better time with all due respect.
 
Furthermore Solgaleo is merely a power source, unlike necrozma, which actually has the ability to grant light.
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Confirmed for not playing the game. The recon squad battle ta with ultra beasts.
Lol I'm playing it right now, I beat it, caught Solgaleo at Maholo trail and Necrozma with a master ball on the way to the Pokémon league. Yes, they are ultra beasts, but by your logic they aren't since they don't use it to battle.
 
Confirmed to be ultra beasts. The recon squad uses ultra beasts, even in battle.

I saud they can't, ya said they don't know how to use Pokemon.

Your reasoning was not confirmed to not be Pokemon (litterally confirmed to not be Pokemon and are ultra beasts).


Ya claimed we don't kniw if the recon squad use ultra beasts. Yet we see them and fight them.
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Confirmed to be ultra beasts. The recon squad uses ultra beasts, even in battle.
I saud they can't, ya said they don't know how to use Pokemon.

Your reasoning was not confirmed to not be Pokemon (litterally confirmed to not be Pokemon and are ultra beasts).


Ya claimed we don't kniw if the recon squad use ultra beasts. Yet we see them and fight them.
What I'm saying is we don't know if ultra beasts aren't pokemon, especially since Guzzlord lived with other pokemon in the Ultra Ruins.
 
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