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Two Hot-Blooded Blondies Try to Blow Each Other Up

Well Kamina did still get mortally wounded, but he still got up from such a attack. Saying this kinda feels like a fallacy, but TTGL’s motto is literally to make the impossible, possible. Which is why we’re introduced to things that logically wouldn’t be possible, getting through with sheer willpower. Him surviving a 7-B attack isn’t an outlier, it’s a willpower feat. And Kittan is fast enough to be able to not take a full force blast, multiple times, and keep getting way stronger and faster
That feels like plot armour and an outlier at the same time, a 9-B can't take a 7-B attack and survive for no reason like that, else he's not 9-B or that attack isn't 7-B. In a versus where PIS and stuff doesn't happen, and we go by logic, a9-B isn't surviving a high 8-C attack even while not at full force.
 
That feels like plot armour and an outlier at the same time, a 9-B can't take a 7-B attack and survive for no reason like that, else he's not 9-B or that attack isn't 7-B. In a versus where PIS and stuff doesn't happen, and we go by logic, a9-B isn't surviving a high 8-C attack even while not at full force.
It isn’t an outlier at all. He was able to continue fighting after feeling the pain of Gurren’s leg getting cut off, the pain of Gurren’s back getting pierced through, and most of his own upper body getting pierced through. He has multiple feats of him being able to fight after feeling the pain of lethal attacks that any normal person would literally pass out and die from. This literally isn’t a 7-B durability feat, because if it was, Kamina wouldn’t have been impaled as badly. Lower tiered characters can survive higher tiered attacks, but barely. It’s obvious that TTGL wants to portray this as a feat of Kamina’s great willpower, hell they purposely make willpower look like plot armor. In short, Kittan (who is far superior to Kamina by the end of Pre-Timeskip) is capable of fighting, even after taking such attacks
 
A 9-B surviving a 7-B attack is an outlier, or those tiers are wrong bro. And surviving big injuries is a willpower feat mostly without any supernatural abilities, but it's irrelevant if you die, which is what if happening if mr. 9-B Kittan gets blasted by mr. high 8-C Bakugo.
 
A 9-B surviving a 7-B attack is an outlier, or those tiers are wrong bro. And surviving big injuries is a willpower feat mostly without any supernatural abilities, but it's irrelevant if you die, which is what if happening if mr. 9-B Kittan gets blasted by mr. high 8-C Bakugo.
Exactly, it’s not an outlier because Kamina literally died right after the fight. TTGL characters who have surpassed Kamina can keep fighting, even after sustaining heavy damage. Kittan can keep fighting, and would die after the fight, just like how Kamina kept fighting in episode 8 until the battle was truly over. Like I said, lower tier characters can survive (barely) from a higher tier attack. There’s multiple instances where this happens. For example, Simon (High 6-A) heavily damaged Viral (7-B) and the latter survived. In short, once again, Kittan is capable of handling multiple attacks from characters a couple of tiers above him via Supernatural Willpower
 
Exactly, it’s not an outlier because Kamina literally died right after the fight. TTGL characters who have surpassed Kamina can keep fighting, even after sustaining heavy damage. Kittan can keep fighting, and would die after the fight, just like how Kamina kept fighting in episode 8 until the battle was truly over. Like I said, lower tier characters can survive (barely) from a higher tier attack. There’s multiple instances where this happens. For example, Simon (High 6-A) heavily damaged Viral (7-B) and the latter survived. In short, once again, Kittan is capable of handling multiple attacks from characters a couple of tiers above him via Supernatural Willpower
Spoilers bro... anyway, wtf that doesn't make sense, willpower doesn't make you 100x more durable... let alone thousands of times, the thing here is that you can't survive a 7-B attack with 9-B durability, either he didn't take the full force of the attack and sustained heavy injuries or outlier because he didn't instantly die, will power doesn't work like that. If kittan survives bakugo's attack but with heavy injuries then sure he'd still be able to fight, but he can't survive it because his fragile body will explode and even if he does survive bakugo can still win because he can dodge and stuff and immediately attack again before kittan can get too fast, but that isn't gonna happen.
 
Spoilers bro... anyway, wtf that doesn't make sense, willpower doesn't make you 100x more durable... let alone thousands of times, the thing here is that you can't survive a 7-B attack with 9-B durability, either he didn't take the full force of the attack and sustained heavy injuries or outlier because he didn't instantly die, will power doesn't work like that. If kittan survives bakugo's attack but with heavy injuries then sure he'd still be able to fight, but he can't survive it because his fragile body will explode and even if he does survive bakugo can still win because he can dodge and stuff and immediately attack again before kittan can get too fast, but that isn't gonna happen.
Why is how willpower in TTGL works, subject to how willpower actually works? Kamina barely survived the 7-B attack, but he pushed through till the very end. If he was more durable, he wouldn’t have gotten the crazy damage he did.
And getting in contact with an explosion doesn’t make you explode, it gives you severe burns
And yes it will happen, once Kittan gets fired up, and becomes more determined to win, he will grow way more powerful spontaneously. Becoming stronger in TTGL literally JUST happens, the more they want to win. These characters’ Reactive Evolution becomes more potent overtime
 
Why is how willpower in TTGL works, subject to how willpower actually works? Kamina barely survived the 7-B attack, but he pushed through till the very end. If he was more durable, he wouldn’t have gotten the crazy damage he did.
And getting in contact with an explosion doesn’t make you explode, it gives you severe burns
And yes it will happen, once Kittan gets fired up, and becomes more determined to win, he will grow way more powerful spontaneously. Becoming stronger in TTGL literally JUST happens, the more they want to win. These characters’ Reactive Evolution becomes more potent overtime
Yeah no, when you're a 9-B against a 7-b attack, there is no "crazy damage" you just die, will power won't save you from that huge of a AP gap, same case here.
And getting in contact with an explosion doesn’t make you explode, it gives you severe burns
I know it'll just blow you away and burn you I was just exaggerating.
 
Yeah no, when you're a 9-B against a 7-b attack, there is no "crazy damage" you just die, will power won't save you from that huge of a AP gap, same case here.
Supernatural Willpower is described as “the ability to exceed one's own limits through sheer willpower to a degree extremely far beyond real human standards.” And “Characters with this ability may be able to resist enormous amounts of pain, act even when unconscious or well beyond what they should be able to endure

This is very clearly a willpower feat instead of an outlier
 
Supernatural Willpower is described as “the ability to exceed one's own limits through sheer willpower to a degree extremely far beyond real human standards.” And “Characters with this ability may be able to resist enormous amounts of pain, act even when unconscious or well beyond what they should be able to endure

This is very clearly a willpower feat instead of an outlier
Yeah I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that, that's like saying a wall can survive being hit by a nuke because the wall can break it's limits because will power. Will power doesn't amp you so many tiers like that.
 
It's not like he got nuked, he got stabbed. Pretty sure you can survive a 7-B stab wound with sufficient willpower
 
It's not like he got nuked, he got stabbed. Pretty sure you can survive a 7-B stab wound with sufficient willpower
Ohhhhh it was a stab wound... ffs I thought he got nuked... okay bro, stab wound cut through his 9-B ass like butter but it was only a stab wound so sure he survived because only a small part of his body got harmed and he can survive the pain and distress of a stab wound with will power, but bakugo's attack is a huge AoE explosion which is more than enough to one shot 9-B Durability so kittan is getting nuked.
 
Ohhhhh it was a stab wound... ffs I thought he got nuked... okay bro, stab wound cut through his 9-B ass like butter but it was only a stab wound so sure he survived because only a small part of his body got harmed and he can survive the pain and distress of a stab wound with will power, but bakugo's attack is a huge AoE explosion which is more than enough to one shot 9-B Durability so kittan is getting nuked.
Kamina survived a large stab wound that took up most of his upper body, and was in the area around his heart. So, he was able to keep fighting even after having fatally wounded vital organs. And Kittan would be fast enough to not take the full force of the attack, so being mortally wounded, like severe burns, is but a minor inconvenience to him, and will keep fighting and will become far more powerful after taking such damage
 
Kamina survived a large stab wound that took up most of his upper body, and was in the area around his heart. So, he was able to keep fighting even after having fatally wounded vital organs. And Kittan would be fast enough to not take the full force of the attack, so being mortally wounded, like severe burns, is but a minor inconvenience to him, and will keep fighting and will become far more powerful after taking such damage
He survived not because of durability but because his body was still functional after taking that wound and he could fight through the pain because will power, but in the case of bakugo, kittan is not fast enough to dodge and will take the attack head on and will get one shot by the massive area of effect.
 
He survived not because of durability but because his body was still functional after taking that wound and he could fight through the pain because will power, but in the case of bakugo, kittan is not fast enough to dodge and will take the attack head on and will get one shot by the massive area of effect.
Kittan is fast enough to not take the full force of a transonic attack from 10 meters. Then become 2x more powerful than before, his growth in power will also become greater thanks to Supernatural Willpower + Empowerment and more potent Reactive Evolution. His reaction/combat/attack speed would eventually become far faster; being able to react to attacks quicker and be able to pull off attacks quicker
 
Kittan is fast enough to not take the full force of a transonic attack from 10 meters. Then become 2x more powerful than before, his growth in power will also become greater thanks to Supernatural Willpower + Empowerment and more potent Reactive Evolution. His reaction/combat/attack speed would eventually become far faster; being able to react to attacks quicker and be able to pull off attacks quicker
Bakugo's explosion moves at 319 m/s, kittans travel speed is subsonic, IDK the value so I'll high ball to 171 m/s, so the difference in speed is 1.87x, so bakugo's range is tens of meters and the starting distance is 10 meters. By the time kittan reacts and moves 20 meters away from bakugo, the blasts would've already caught up and kittan would get blasted to oblivion, let's say he doesn't take the full force of the attack, well then he's still getting one shot regardless.
 
Bakugo's explosion moves at 319 m/s, kittans travel speed is subsonic, IDK the value so I'll high ball to 171 m/s, so the difference in speed is 1.87x, so bakugo's range is tens of meters and the starting distance is 10 meters. By the time kittan reacts and moves 20 meters away from bakugo, the blasts would've already caught up and kittan would get blasted to oblivion, let's say he doesn't take the full force of the attack, well then he's still getting one shot regardless.
Why not just move aside from the attack rather away further away from the attack? Because that would be way better for Kittan, and you can get one-shot but keep fighting because Supernatural Willpower or Immortality Type 2. Getting one shot doesn’t automatically mean they lose. A lot of characters get one-shot and barely survive, and there are few who can actually keep fighting after getting one shot (like Kamina). In this case, Kittan is capable of surviving attacks without getting hit with its full force, at least 3 times. Kittan is already fast enough to minimize the damage he takes, and he’s only getting faster the more determined he becomes, and the longer the fight goes on
 
Why not just move aside from the attack rather away further away from the attack? Because that would be way better for Kittan, and you can get one-shot but keep fighting because Supernatural Willpower or Immortality Type 2. Getting one shot doesn’t automatically mean they lose. A lot of characters get one-shot and barely survive, and there are few who can actually keep fighting after getting one shot (like Kamina). In this case, Kittan is capable of surviving attacks without getting hit with its full force, at least 3 times. Kittan is already fast enough to minimize the damage he takes, and he’s only getting faster the more determined he becomes, and the longer the fight goes on
Bakugo's attack isn't just long it's also super wide since it's an explosion. And kittan doesn't have immorality type 2, also if you get one shot, you die, and will power doesn't matfer if you die. And bakugo's attack will kill kittan.
 
Bakugo's attack isn't just long it's also super wide since it's an explosion. And kittan doesn't have immorality type 2, also if you get one shot, you die, and will power doesn't matfer if you die. And bakugo's attack will kill kittan.
Kittan still has the sufficient speed to not get hit with its full force
And yes, I’m aware, he doesn’t have immortality type 2, I only said you can keep fighting if you have that, so what are you even trying to say?
And Kamina got one-shot, and what happened? He didn’t die immediately, he was capable of continuing the fight. So yes, with sufficient willpower, you can keep fighting, even if you’ve taken in the pain that you logically aren’t supposed to handle. With this level of Willpower, it seems almost like type 2 immortality. Like for goodness sake’s, Kamina kept fighting after losing a heart, how are severe burns gonna stop Kittan?
 
Kittan still has the sufficient speed to not get hit with its full force
And yes, I’m aware, he doesn’t have immortality type 2, I only said you can keep fighting if you have that, so what are you even trying to say?
And Kamina got one-shot, and what happened? He didn’t die immediately, he was capable of continuing the fight. So yes, with sufficient willpower, you can keep fighting, even if you’ve taken in the pain that you logically aren’t supposed to handle. With this level of Willpower, it seems almost like type 2 immortality. Like for goodness sake’s, Kamina kept fighting after losing a heart, how are severe burns gonna stop Kittan?
Even if he doesn't take the full force of the attack, he's still getting one shot.
One shot means that you get killed in one attack, kamina didn't get killed, he had a big wound but was still able to fight, kittan won't be able to do that because that big explosion is going to blow him up completely because of the AP difference unlike kamina who only got stabbed.
 
Even if he doesn't take the full force of the attack, he's still getting one shot.
One shot means that you get killed in one attack, kamina didn't get killed, he had a big wound but was still able to fight, kittan won't be able to do that because that big explosion is going to blow him up completely because of the AP difference unlike kamina who only got stabbed.
Kittan isn’t going to get blown up completely. He literally has the speed to minimize the damage he takes from the explosion, and he would just get burned, which is a minor inconvenience to him, and can take at least 2 more of those, which would get him enough time to become way more powerful than before on the spot. And the AoE is only Building level, a large building such as a skyscraper is at minimum 150 meters in height
 
You know explosions don't just burn right? Explosions cause a big blast shockwave thing that can not only burn but also squish the body and organs, ear drums and lungs get ruptured, the body also gets torn to shreds if it's in the blast radius, and if you aren't in the blast radius you get blasted by shrapnel. Since Bakugo's attack is way way way stronger than kittans durability then Kittan is getting one shot, and kittan would still be in the blast radius even if he tries to get away from the blast to minimize the damage he will still die because the AP difference is too great. About bakugo's AoE, his range is tens of meters which can go all the way up to 100 meters, and kittan can only get 10 meters away from the blast before it reaches him which is not enough to escape it.
 
Kittan's bombs' explosions which can cover 10 meters, which is how large Gurren's main body is. Kittan would throw a multitude of his bombs, which all interact with Bakugo's explosion, then creates a bigger more powerful explosion, and they both die
 
Is it in character for kittan to immediately attack and risk blowing himself up?
Considering Kittan’s standard tactic is to rush in without a first hand plan, and just “beat the crap outta someone”, on top of that, having gone out in a blaze of glory because he “had no other choice”, he’d definitely do it
 
Considering Kittan’s standard tactic is to rush in without a first hand plan, and just “beat the crap outta someone”, on top of that, having gone out in a blaze of glory because he “had no other choice”, he’d definitely do it
Alright inconclusive I guess, Bakugo would've won had Kittan not been suicidal.
 
Voting Incon. Some prior stuff mentioned about Bakugo are a bit mis-leading, I dont feel like debunking them right now. it's 2 AM and its roasting me alive
 
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