Twilight Hitmen: Loid Forger vs Agent 47

[LordGinSama]

Yeah it's time.


Both get roughly a week of whatever information they can manage to find on the other.

Winner via death of the opponent.


Speed is equalized and the battle takes place in a church.


Both have full access to their arsenal including explosives for both parties.


Loid: 0

Agent 47: 0

Incon: 0

 

[DaReaperMan]

So Loid pretty much AP stomps even if 47 is above someone who casually did his value... if it weren't for 47 having Diana ************* Burnwood doing research for him and him having all of his equipment.

47 is liable to not take this kind of fight head-on when he has borderline complete prior knowledge, while Loid would be lucky to find traces of 47's capabilities and whatnot considering Diana isn't talking if she's gotten to and the fact the ICA has 0 files on 47 or Diana becuase those, along with the entire ICA, were destroyed in Hitman 3, making this a fight where Loid knows he's fighting the legendary hitman Agent 47, he's got cool ass guns, and little else

So how does this fight turn out?

Well, Unironically pretty fairly.

Spoiler: Analysis of the fight

Loid has AP and comparable combat skill to my knowledge, combined with them starting in a church and it's up to 47 to immediately high-tail it out of there, which he can do, 47's skill in stealth is ******* insane.

And this turns into a cat and mouse chase, if Loid manages to catch 47, that's GG, he should be comparable in skill like I said, so that over 6x AP advantage ends 47.

If 47 stays away he can whittle down Loid from a Distance with sniper rifles or blow him up bury him, etc.

I will put down 47's skill feats as I know them, I hope to rework his profile this year, but I haven't started yet.

Spoiler: 47 is skilled

To start with, 47 is a master of every Martial art under the sun and regularly skill stomps trained guards, military forces, police, secret service agents, etc.

With guns, we take a step up, 47 is more then capable of out-shooting just about anybody on the planet, militias, military generals, sharpshooters, entire 9-man squads of other agents who regularly walk in and out of heavily guarded facilities, and proceeding to kill someone unharmed.

And then there's 47's Stealth... the previous heavily armored facilities feat applies, and then is multiplied by dozens of guards barreling into a tight corridor into a room with 1 exit and 47 having to escape completely unnoticed and unseen. Lucas Grey, someone 47 is roughly comparable to in skill, snuck into what was essentially the Illuminati's secret headquarters with every security system under the god damn sun in it, broke into the most secure vault on the planet, took every piece of information inside, and escaped completely unnoticed and unseen despite extensive- and still working- camera systems.

And 47 himself, ya know, took down the entire ICA and escaped completely unnoticed and unseen. I shouldn't really need to go further because Gray's feat alone is completely bonkers.

 

[LordGinSama]

We got anyone familiar with Loid's connections for information? I'd like to see what he can bring to the table to attempt to counter 47's arsenal. Both are likely comparable to one another in terms of stealth although 47 takes it via virtue of being from more technology advanced times.

 

[DaReaperMan]

We got anyone familiar with Loid's connections for information?

There isn't a connection in existence good enough to know much of anything about post-Hitman 3 Agent 47, Providence was destroyed entirely, so was the ICA,(the files on 47 and Diana were deleted) the only two organizations in existence which had any real records on 47 beyond "he's a legendary hitman", not even a name to the face.

The only option would be to somehow track Diana down and it took over a year to find her with an organization with literally unlimited resources and information experts working on it when she didn't want to be found.

And then there's making her talk, which... isn't happening.

 

[LordGinSama]

Bump

 

[LordGinSama]

To start with, 47 is a master of every Martial art under the sun and regularly skill stomps trained guards, military forces, police, secret service agents, etc.

I think this already places 47's combat skill significantly above Loid's. To my knowledge Loid wasn't taught every martial art known to man, although he can keep up with a drunk Yor, even she doesn't have feats like that.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I think this already places 47's combat skill significantly above Loid's. To my knowledge Loid wasn't taught every martial art known to man, although he can keep up with a drunk Yor, even she doesn't have feats like that.

Having variety doesn't necessarily make you more skilled, TBF, it just means that 47 can switch and mix and match styles on a dime, which is kinda spooky

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

Voting for 47 because of his broken stealth mastery.

 

[LordGinSama]

Having variety doesn't necessarily make you more skilled, TBF, it just means that 47 can switch and mix and match styles on a dime, which is kinda spooky

Fair enough. Isn't there something about 47's history effectively being erased from records or some shit like that?


I mean ultimately it shouldn't come that much into play as I can see this ending in a direct altercation. Does 47 have anything to stop Loid from gaining the drop with his Analytical Prediction? (Although Loid's is based on things like his opponent showing signs of overconfidence and paying attention to finger movements and the gaze of the opponent.)

 

[DaReaperMan]

Fair enough. Isn't there something about 47's history effectively being erased from records or some shit like that

Yep, the ICA couldn't see where he was from+when they were destroyed both his and Diana's files were deleted

I mean ultimately it shouldn't come that much into play as I can see this ending in a direct altercation. Does 47 have anything to stop Loid from gaining the drop with his Analytical Prediction? (Although Loid's is based on things like his opponent showing signs of overconfidence and paying attention to finger movements and the gaze of the opponent.)

47 has his own anal prediction and would figure out fairly quickly that Loid could track him(if he even can, 47 is stupidly precise and doesn't like to make unneeded movements)

 

[Harith0cell]

Agent 47 fra

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

47 fra

 

[AThe1412]

Loid can put up a fight but he won't escape the wrath of the homing briefcase. 47 FRA.

 

[NikHelton]

47 is obviously much more experienced and skilled.
As far as I know, his fighting style involves stealth and skirmishes, so it is unlikely that he will go into hand-to-hand combat.

However, if he does come face to face with Loyd, then, sensing the difference in strength, he will increase the distance and use his entire arsenal.