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Lord of the Rings is very cool, and our profiles for them are almost as cool. That said, some changes must be made.
Change the First:
I made a Q&A thread for this, which never went anywhere, I'll just quote what I said there.
"The justification listed on Gimli's profile states that Treebeard considers trolls strong, but the AP value Gimli is scaled to is just the one for the standard Ents and not Treebeard's 9-B+. This seems a little odd, especially since the whole point of the scaling is that trolls are comparable to Treebeard, not just average Ents." - me 2 months ago
I propose all the characters scaling to the Ents be upgraded to 9-B+.
Change the First Point Five:
Similarly, if the Treebeard scaling gets accepted, I propose a "possibly" rating, here's what I said in my original Q&A thread:
"Their fingers, and their toes, just freeze on to rock; and they tear it up like bread-crust. It was like watching the work of great tree-roots in a hundred years, all packed into a few moments.' This is the quote used for the calculation, I wonder if it would be appropriate to include an end where both hands are used to tear up rocks, perhaps to include it as a "possibly" end, which would be notable because it would upgrade Treebeard to 'possibly 9-A'." - also me 2 months ago
Since we don't have a visual, it's impossible to confirm if the Ents did do the tearing two-handed or not, which is why I am only advocating for "possibly".
Change the Second:
This part builds upon the last LotR CRT, where it was accepted that hobbits should scale to Bilbo's 28.3796 m/s. However, I think we should upgrade Gimli, Boromir, Faramir, Legolas, and Aragorn to baseline Subsonic because of this passage from The Two Towers:
"Then he (Faramir) turned and without looking back he left them and went with his two guards that stood at a little distance away. They (Frodo and Sam) marvelled to see with what speed these green-clad man now moved, vanishing almost in the twinkling of an eye." (The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, Book Four, Journey To The Cross-Roads, page 343)
Basically, Faramir and the rangers could move so fast they surprised Frodo and Sam with their speed, implying it was much faster than either of them could move or thought someone could move. Given this, and the difference between Bilbo's speed and baseline Subsonic (34.4 m/s) is only 1.2086 x, they should be granted upscaling.
The following profiles should be affected by all of the changes:
Agree: LegendariumOfLies, DarkDragonMedeus, Emirp sumitpo
Disagree:
Neutral:
Change the First:
I made a Q&A thread for this, which never went anywhere, I'll just quote what I said there.
"The justification listed on Gimli's profile states that Treebeard considers trolls strong, but the AP value Gimli is scaled to is just the one for the standard Ents and not Treebeard's 9-B+. This seems a little odd, especially since the whole point of the scaling is that trolls are comparable to Treebeard, not just average Ents." - me 2 months ago
I propose all the characters scaling to the Ents be upgraded to 9-B+.
Change the First Point Five:
Similarly, if the Treebeard scaling gets accepted, I propose a "possibly" rating, here's what I said in my original Q&A thread:
"Their fingers, and their toes, just freeze on to rock; and they tear it up like bread-crust. It was like watching the work of great tree-roots in a hundred years, all packed into a few moments.' This is the quote used for the calculation, I wonder if it would be appropriate to include an end where both hands are used to tear up rocks, perhaps to include it as a "possibly" end, which would be notable because it would upgrade Treebeard to 'possibly 9-A'." - also me 2 months ago
Since we don't have a visual, it's impossible to confirm if the Ents did do the tearing two-handed or not, which is why I am only advocating for "possibly".
Change the Second:
This part builds upon the last LotR CRT, where it was accepted that hobbits should scale to Bilbo's 28.3796 m/s. However, I think we should upgrade Gimli, Boromir, Faramir, Legolas, and Aragorn to baseline Subsonic because of this passage from The Two Towers:
"Then he (Faramir) turned and without looking back he left them and went with his two guards that stood at a little distance away. They (Frodo and Sam) marvelled to see with what speed these green-clad man now moved, vanishing almost in the twinkling of an eye." (The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, Book Four, Journey To The Cross-Roads, page 343)
Basically, Faramir and the rangers could move so fast they surprised Frodo and Sam with their speed, implying it was much faster than either of them could move or thought someone could move. Given this, and the difference between Bilbo's speed and baseline Subsonic (34.4 m/s) is only 1.2086 x, they should be granted upscaling.
The following profiles should be affected by all of the changes:
Agree: LegendariumOfLies, DarkDragonMedeus, Emirp sumitpo
Disagree:
Neutral:
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