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John Combat is Class 50.
John Combat ain't gonna be doing the grabbing, rather Torture is. If Torture tries to grab, easy parry.
Then what. he parries and Torture immediately shoots his ass because Mag Agents are resistant to being stunned due to their brains being made of pure muscle.
Unless this guy outclasses Hank J. Wimbleton, who torture had running for his ****** life, his skill means nothing in this fight.
This is not shown anywhere in the profiles. NLF. Plus, it's Paralysis Inducement. Torture is not resistant to that.
John Combat dealt with enemies far bigger than Torture (e.g. Matatabi). This is nothing new to John Combat.
He can pull out all the skill he wants, but Torture simply has fought a more skilled opponent.
Quite interesting. However, that still doesn't stop the damage nullification of the attempted grab and the evasive rolls that he can do to just.. dodge the shots that Torture has. Still, it's not on the profile so that argument is invalid anyway.
John Combat fought skilled opponents. He can fight entire groups of people with weapons with his bare hands. He can fight the Matatabi with his bare hands if he wanted to.
The fact that all of that and John Combat is still less skilled than Hank because he's fought people who were so strong that someone needed a device powered energy which could warp reality and tear apart logic by using it just so they had a shot against him (this fight was still described as legendary even with the device) should say something on how little skill matters against torture, since torture had Hank running for his life.
Being a brute force demon will not give you an insta trump over against someone who has fought people who have literal electric weapons and giant sea beasts as weapons.
John Combat can parry literal leaps and enraged charges from the Matatabi. I'm highly sure that he'll be able to parry blows coming from a big dude like him. The only thing that he can't parry are shotgun shots.. which he is able to dodge gunfire from a BFG 50 with his evasive.
John Combat will do exactly that. It might feel like Matatabi fight MK2 but he can kill the Matatabi with a literal sickle. A sickle.
Are we comparing electric weaponry and sea monsters to people who can erase people from existence are we fr.
I like how you're only defense to how he can parry against someone who's tagged someone who can percieve others moving at a snail's pace, detect threats that he can't see, and instinctively moves out of the way of attacks is just "he's big"
It's gonna hurt but John Combat will still fight it out. The gap is not big enough for a one shot. Plus, how would Torture even know that a Parry is coming?Like, yeah no that's not how it works. John might get one or two parries in on Torture but after that Torture is just going to punch his ass once the parry is over and is a sitting duck
Yes, he is a big motheryucker so every single slash that John Combat does slowly whittles Torture down while at the same time just floating around him like a damn Mosquito.
I get he's stupid but he's not that stupid. He can see if someone puts their arm up and has a forcefield appear on them.
You act as if that same exact battle plan didn't end with hank being launched across a canyon like a golf ball 10 seconds into their fight.
Realistically, I'm not even sure. Torture giving hank of all people trouble is really f****** crazy to me.
Yeah but the action is so fast, he wouldn't really know what happened. The shield only pops up for like 0.5 seconds.
Realistically if Torture goes for a grab, it's getting parried to be fair. I get that he ain't that stupid and can give hank problems, he will give John Combat problems too, but John Combat fought other big people like Matatabi so what could Torture really do that won't get parried besides shotgun blast John?
The forcefield may or may not be visible. It's a customizable thing.
Torture is a very committed soldier.
The fast motion isn't the problem, the lack of knowledge is. He'll 100% get caught by it because he obviously has zero idea what it is (and hindered intelligence is ******* him here), he'll 100% figure out that the blue forcefield he's hitting is stunning him before John can do more than negligible damage to him.
Realistically if torture hits John full throttle Torture 100% has another free hit he can do to John, considering at the very least these two have very similar stamina thresholds.
Whatever is default should be assumed, which if i had to guess would be the forcefield is visible by default.
Acrobatics.
Are the acrobatics at all impressive? i haven't played that game in years but last i remembered they can dash and roll, and thats about it.
They can dash, roll, and super jump artificially and naturally.
So how does rolling or dashing help them avoid the shotgun? their tommy gun feat relied on the person using it to lowkey suck ass, in this situation not only does mag torture have a better feat of aim with his shotgun, his shotgun has spread that would make doing that impossible without getting shot.
Are talking about his items?
Nope. Actual skills. The skills are shared with pretty much all the light weapons which can be viewed here.
That is due to the pillars around the arena falling and the massive goddamn projecties falling as well. Other than that, he can parry the other things coming like any grab or fist attacks that are coming from Torture.
Anything for him to win.
That's when, again, his agility comes into play. John Combat would just float around Torture and keep slashing him until he falls apart like legos. Sure, it'll take a while but John Combat is built for long ass fights like the Matatabi for example. Torture doesn't seem to have a way to catch John Combat with his acrobatics, let alone tag him.
You mean the agility that the profile specifically says he needs to be at long distances to use to dodge bullets? yeah i'm sure that'll be really useful at point blank range... the player has a melee weapon in what situation besides running away would they be at the right distance to effectively dodge the bullets?
Torture: Being a brute force demon.
Other MAG Agents like Torture can literally fight just fine with missing flesh down to the bone across their entire body. Torture inarguably has better stamina feats than the player, im not sure why you're mentioning the not losing effectiveness part as if they have that over torture.
The bullets in Mag Torture's shotgun is magnified aswell, if the player was actually hit from Torture's shotgun blast (which they will, because they can't feasibly dodge it point blank), it would leave wounds that exceed their Low-Mid regeneration (Which, why do they have low-mid regen? they can't regenerate limbs. the regeneration described on their page is High-Low at best.)
I'd just like to note that the literal fodder in the madness combat universe have shown comparable agility feats (Dashing, using weaponry to simulate flight for periods of time, being able to dodge actual gunfire in close range) to the combat warrior player, so no Torture 100% could keep up. Speed is equalized here, the player isn't faster, and if they used their potion to make Torture slower, it wouldn't change anything because Mag Torture is slow anyways and is used to fighting in those conditions anyways.
Didn't you just say that Player can roll and dash and slide? Plus, John Combat has mega leaps via skills that can just have him leap right outta combat. Torture can't keep up with that. He can't do the crap John's doing.
He won't regenerate those gibbed things but his health will regenerate.
Leaps, dashes, and rolls is literally bare basics. You are overhyping it as if that means they’re unhittable when they’re very easily tagged by bullets, which torture is using bullets but they completely bypass their regeneration.
so they don’t even qualify for the regeneration listed on the profile?? What do you think happens when someone is shot with a bullet that leaves entrance wounds big as someone’s chest. The player isn’t regenerating from any of torture’s potential hits.
you can’t claim game mechanics for the skills but then claim he could regenerate from damage his own profile says he can’t because of game mechanics. That’s not how that works lol.
Make a CRT about it.
I didn't make the profile and that is not what I said.
So is regenerating from impalement and having an arrow shot straight into his head not Low-Mid? Not being able to regrow limbs is a specific weakness that he has, not a disqualification for Low-Mid regeneration.
That's what I'm saying. I'm over here trying my hardest.
I never argued he should get stomped. I assumed the profile wasn't hella stupid. Low-Mid theoretically would let the player regenerate from shots from torture, but i was unaware it was either not low-mid or very very weak low-mid regeneration.
Impalement and severe burns definitely damage the organs.
"If the character can only regenerate from damage that is covered by a higher type of regeneration, but not from damage that should be included in a lower type, the page should list the lowest type for which all qualifiers are fulfilled, or none if not even Low Regeneration is fulfilled. The extent of the regeneration should then be explained in an additional note."
