Topaz's Stats Equal Video Game Tournament: Round 2! Goro Majima vs Myo

[MysticBrawler]

Not really, as Majima can suddenly appear from sewers and from other people's windows too. Half of the Majima Everywhere system doesn't require him to change outfits and his noteworthy ones are not from that system.


Even if the pummeling bat and tanto break (which they shouldn't), it's going to take a long long time before they can be dented since Majima has been using that tanto till 2023 from 2005. The other non-style-specific weapons are fair game, and so is Myo's assault rifle.


Don't you mean experience with assault rifles? While it's not exactly assault rifles, most of the yakuza cast have dealt with bullets (Kiryu got a taste of dodging missiles so there's that). And as I've said time and time again, he should have no problem evading the bullets, which this location helps him with. It's not just dodging either too, Slugger is still beneficial for bullet avoidance. He's going to hold up well till the CQC part where the gun becomes a non-factor by breaking it (since it's your decision pointing out that the bat can be broken) or disarming it from her. Damage Transferal is going to be a bitch to Myo and he has healing too via drinking Staminan Xs.

Fair enough, though it seems that he can't(or just doesn't) use this in the middle of combat, so he probably can't use that to escape once their already fighting.

Fair enough, though I'm pretty sure that Myo's assault rifle has been able to withstand attacks from those with higher AP than her.

Assault Rifles: Myo carries an assault rifle capable of automatic fire as well as pinpoint long range shooting. So Myo can in fact snipe Majima as soon as the fight starts. The thing is though he wouldn't know that Myo can attack him from that far away so he wouldn't know to look out for an attack, and he also doesn't have any Instinctive Reaction so you can't really argue that he would be able to react to this without prior knowledge.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Fair enough, though it seems that he can't(or just doesn't) use this in the middle of combat, so he probably can't use that to escape once their already fighting

He surely won't use it to escape but will use it to sneak attack, initiate combat or close the gap. Bear in mind he does more damage when the opponent cannot see him. If Myo's sight is impaired in anyway, his damage output will increase

Fair enough, though I'm pretty sure that Myo's assault rifle has been able to withstand attacks from those with higher AP than her.

Then I'm very sure none of their weapons will break in this matchup, so that's the end of that discussion.

So Myo can in fact snipe Majima as soon as the fight starts. The thing is though he wouldn't know that Myo can attack him from that far away so he wouldn't know to look out for an attack, and he also doesn't have any Instinctive Reaction so you can't really argue that he would be able to react to this without prior knowledge.

Firstly, according to SBA, they will know the direction each combatant is facing, meaning they will be seeing each other.

Secondly, one thing you've neglected about Majima's thug style that I have specified beforehand is the Keen Eye ability.​

he can see concealed equipment the opponent has

Majima is going to figure out that she's going to be sniping him (whether that assault rifle is as effective as an actual sniper is beyond me) and take the necessary precautions to avoid that WHILE closing the gap.

 

[MysticBrawler]

He surely won't use it to escape but will use it to sneak attack, initiate combat or close the gap. Bear in mind he does more damage when the opponent cannot see him. If Myo's sight is impaired in anyway, his damage output will increase


Then I'm very sure none of their weapons will break in this matchup, so that's the end of that discussion.

Firstly, according to SBA, they will know the direction each combatant is facing, meaning they will be seeing each other.

Secondly, one thing you've neglected about Majima's thug style that I have specified beforehand is the Keen Eye ability.​

Majima is going to figure out that she's going to be sniping him (whether that assault rifle is as effective as an actual sniper is beyond me) and take the necessary precautions to avoid that WHILE closing the gap.

How high Myo amps is based on how much damage she receives so Majima's Damage Boost/Rage Power will probably just make her amp faster.

Myo sniping Majima goes with the assumption that the starting distance would be 1-4 kilometers so unless your telling me that Majima's Keen Eye ability allows him to see that far away then he definitely, wouldn'tt be able to see Myo's attack coming.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Myo sniping Majima goes with the assumption that the starting distance would be 1-4 kilometers so unless your telling me that Majima's Keen Eye ability allows him to see that far away then he definitely, wouldn'tt be able to see Myo's attack coming.

That's called Enhanced Senses, which is what his Keen Eyes fall to. So most probably yes. Yes, he can see.

 

[MysticBrawler]

That's called Enhanced Senses, which is what his Keen Eyes fall to. So most probably yes. Yes, he can see.

According to this "Keen Eye" is primarily used to spot hidden weapons on enemies and it seems to be limited to close range so I don't see how this could be used here. Also says in his profile that he can casually dodge them from behind by hearing the slightest click of the trigger which is not something that he can do when he's being shot from such a far distance

 

[Shadowslash125]

According to this "Keen Eye" is primarily used to spot hidden weapons on enemies and it seems to be limited to close range so I don't see how this could be used here

It's never confirmed if he can't use it from far away, but even if he can't, SBA is more than enough to see Myo aiming at him with an unconcealed gun and that's going to have him evade the shots..
Keen Eyes will make it easier.

Also says in his profile that he can casually dodge them from behind by hearing the slightest click of the trigger which is not something that he can do when he's being shot from such a far distance

Oh don't worry, he'll get ample opportunities to use this when he gets into CQC range.

 

[MysticBrawler]

It's never confirmed if he can't use it from far away, but even if he can't, SBA is more than enough to see Myo aiming at him with an unconcealed gun and that's going to have him evade the shots..
Keen Eyes will make it easier.

Oh don't worry, he'll get ample opportunities to use this when he gets into CQC range.

Is there a cutscene or something that says he could actually see that far? Cause if not then I think your seriously overestimating Majima's Enhanced Senses here.

Yeah I know. My point was this isn't something he can do to counter long-range sniping.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Is there a cutscene or something that says he could actually see that far? Cause if not then I think your seriously overestimating Majima's Enhanced Senses here.

To be fair, this is another case of the "gameplay is different from cutscene" shenanigans Yakuza has. And we can't rule them out just for that, since there's a whole chock of of them in the profiles. However, he should scale to Kiryu who had 2 major shootouts in a car chase, being able to take cover of shots easily from far away.

Yeah I know. My point was this isn't something he can do to counter long-range sniping.

These feats won't apply to long-range so yeah.

Honestly speaking, why don't we hold off on the discussion for a bit, since it's just been us going back and forth and there's not been anyone else joining in on this. Even the creator of the tournament just vanished (tho I assume Topaz is busy with irl stuff).

 

[Topaz404]

Ah yea, ive been letting yall discuss while i waited for arguments
not gonna lie though

this tournament has kinda gone to crap with the 4th round and im not feelin up to continue
sorry yall

 

[MysticBrawler]

Ah yea, ive been letting yall discuss while i waited for arguments
not gonna lie though

this tournament has kinda gone to crap with the 4th round and im not feelin up to continue
sorry yall

What are you talking about? The 4th round hasn't even started yet.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Aww that's too bad, the idea of an equal stats tournament is very ******* fun since I could just throw characters like Majima in without getting outstatted into oblivion.
However yea, there's a lot of matches that are going to be very one-sided due to the sheer magnitude of abilities they have among other things. And I admit I indulged into that with Byleth.

While I'm not really experienced with tournaments like this, I think the hax should've been limited to mid rather than high.

 

[Shadowslash125]

I think Topaz meant the third round.

 

[Topaz404]

I think Topaz meant the third round.

Nah you shouldve seen the crap storm that happened with Round 4.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Nah you shouldve seen the crap storm that happened with Round 4.

I can't say I can see the crap storm, other than the dozen Mio wincons and someone saying what constitutes as high hax is subjective (unless that's what you're referring to). Or is it just the lack of discussion later down the line?

Come to think of it, this is the only balanced round that can go either way, and it's been fun discussing this one here when I normally can't have Majima do stuff. So thanks for that.

 

[Topaz404]

Lack of discussion later on, admittedly, and yeah this is probably the most balanced match of the entire tournament (maybe barring Lance vs Mega Man)
Oh well

 

[MysticBrawler]

I can't say I can see the crap storm, other than the dozen Mio wincons and someone saying what constitutes as high hax is subjective (unless that's what you're referring to). Or is it just the lack of discussion later down the line?

Come to think of it, this is the only balanced round that can go either way, and it's been fun discussing this one here when I normally can't have Majima do stuff. So thanks for that.

Yeah, this was a pretty good matchup.

Lack of discussion later on, admittedly, and yeah this is probably the most balanced match of the entire tournament (maybe barring Lance vs Mega Man)
Oh well

Well, that's unfortunate. Hopefully things will turn out better next time.