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Tomodachi Game; General Discussion Thread

Delta333 said:
It's the ability to stay calm and both are equal in term of this,
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They really aren't
Delta333 said:
Yuuichi has this feat too since he since tanked 3 punches from someone bigger than him, having 3 fingernails torn off and his palm stabbed with a knife (This is related to mass manipulation so I will talk about it too).
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Koji was beated as a 4 year old by adult fighters with other kids being stated to vomit and they still had to get up, Got stabbed with no reaction at all, Which definetily is not the case for Yuuichi
Delta333 said:
Considering all of this happened in minutes (their thoughts and emotions changed in many different ways), his mass manipulation feat is better than that of Because
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Koji rumor feat is better imo
Delta333 said:
Because?
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Kei feat
Delta333 said:
Not even close since Yuuichi uses the very method that Kamishiro is expertise in, to manipulate Kamishiro without him even recognizing it.
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Ryuuen was not aware too
Delta333 said:
Also way to manipulate is to the mentally weak person feel a little magic to gain trust,
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Kei with Koji
Delta333 said:
then gently point out the weakness to direct the other person's fear of having to make their own decisions, then is that person throws away thinking about the decision and entrusts it to what he believes. It's worth noting that Yuuichi adjusted Kamishiro's emotions to make manipulating his mind more convenient (that is, making his ego become too high).
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Koji knew Ryuuen's line of thought from vol 3 to 7, More over Koji also manipulated Takuya by abusing his complex and made expelled by making him do what Koji wanted
Delta333 said:
Compared to other feats, this feat is very proactive.
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X strategy and love letter has better manipulation imo
 
XxZetsuxX said:
Koji was beated as a 4 year old by adult fighters with other kids being stated to vomit and they still had to get up, Got stabbed with no reaction at all, Which definetily is not the case for Yuuichi
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Getting beaten is the same as Yuuichi, he got stabbed but into his hand so it's the same for Yuuichi, again the difference here is the way Yuuichi can conveniently change his emotion constantly, something Koji will never be able to do.
XxZetsuxX said:
Koji rumor feat is better imo
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Yuuichi manipulated them all in minutes and changed their mind to numerous different thoughts rather than just one, again you can't compare like that.
XxZetsuxX said:
Ryuuen was not aware too
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Ryuuen has never been manipulated with the manipulation method that he's too familiar with.
XxZetsuxX said:
Kei with Koji
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The method he does just too common.
XxZetsuxX said:
Koji knew Ryuuen's line of thought from vol 3 to 7, More over Koji also manipulated Takuya by abusing his complex and made expelled by making him do what Koji wanted
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XxZetsuxX said:
X strategy and love letter has better manipulation imo
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Strategy goes to Koji but manipulation doesn't, love letter and Takuya are setting trap feat, not manipulation feat, tho Yuuichi will get setting trap too since his feat of trapping Shinji is three-layered trap while love letter is just two.
 
Delta333 said:
Getting beaten is the same as Yuuichi, he got stabbed but into his hand so it's the same for Yuuichi, again the difference here is the way Yuuichi can conveniently change his emotion constantly, something Koji will never be able to do.
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I think you are overating this part
Delta333 said:
Yuuichi manipulated them all in minutes and changed their mind to numerous different thoughts rather than just one, again you can't compare like that.
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Iirc Koji did it after he discovered Honami past
Delta333 said:
Ryuuen has never been manipulated with the manipulation method that he's too familiar with.
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Takuya :p
Delta333 said:
The method he does just too common.
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Housen knife feat
Delta333 said:
Strategy goes to Koji but manipulation doesn't, love letter and Takuya are setting trap feat, not manipulation feat,
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He indirectly made Takuya go to the reunion just to get expelled by using his complex against him
 
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XxZetsuxX said:
I think you are overating this part
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In outsmarting it is one of the most important aspects to deceive others.
XxZetsuxX said:
Iirc Koji did it after he discovered Honami past
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XxZetsuxX said:
Housen knife feat
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Yea all of these are not complex at all, his feat of manipulating Kamishiro requires more steps plus he needs to act exactly the same as what Yutori thinks, so she will still believe that she is manipulating Yuuichi, which she isn't.
XxZetsuxX said:
He indirectly made Takuya go to the reunion just to get expelled by using his cplex against him
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Yea it can't compare to a three-layered trap, plus Yuuichi knows to use the prey that has been trapped (Kimiko) as a bait for another prey (Shinji), so the trapping process is continuous. And he knows how to attract others to the bait as well, and Yuuichi uses it to make people who swap passwords with him be given unfair terms (that is, they can order him to do whatever they want, but not the other way around), as well as promises that seems too good to be true (that is, help them win the game and gain big money). Again none of this is a thing in Koji's trap.
Rikimarox2 said:
Screw Koji vs Yuuichi, what about Baku vs Yuuichi 🙃
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Baku before the real labyrinth arc maybe somewhat fair I think.
 
Delta333 said:
That's not what I mean, I have listed different examples of acting tho. Yea he is actually in pain.
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Yeah but i do believe firmly they are horribly inferior to Koji's EM

No change in heart beat after almost murdering 6 fighters, Not even his andreline kicked him which normally happens when you fight, No change in expression after getting stabbed not to mention he wasn't even bothered by the pain, Got punched by Albert with a poker face

This is a complete stomp in Koji's favor in EM
 
XxZetsuxX said:
Yeah but i do believe firmly they are horribly inferior to Koji's EM

No change in heart beat after almost murdering 6 fighters, Not even his andreline kicked him which normally happens when you fight, No change in expression after getting stabbed not to mention he wasn't even bothered by the pain, Got punched by Albert with a poker face

This is a complete stomp in Koji's favor in EM
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Most of them are just durability feats, for them to be EM feats he needs to be in pain yet not losing his mind.
 
Delta333 said:
Most of them are just durability feats, for them to be EM feats he needs to be in pain yet not losing his mind.
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Which is legit EM

You would start crying or at least scream in pain after getting stabbed by a knife, Koji legit was like "Did a fly touch me?"

Also his 6 fighter feat counts as EM as he legit composed, No emotions after legit almost murdering 6 people
 
XxZetsuxX said:
You would start crying or at least scream in pain after getting stabbed by a knife, Koji legit was like "Did a fly touch me?"
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Feel free to explain to me how it's superior to the ability to change your own emotions constantly just by willing it.
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Also his 6 fighter feat counts as EM as he legit composed, No emotions after legit almost murdering 6 people
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Yuuichi smiles after killing his adoptive parents...that not to mention the fact that ppl keep digging into this dirty past of him to laugh or despise him, or stay away with him but he just doesn't care.
 
Delta333 said:
Feel free to explain to me how it's superior to the ability to change your own emotions constantly just by willing it.
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That's the thing, This is what i said by overating
Delta333 said:
Yuuichi smiles after killing his adoptive parents...that not to mention the fact that ppl keep digging into this dirty past of him to laugh or despise him, or stay away with him but he just doesn't care.
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And how exactly is this better? He smiles, But there's not hint or indicative his heart rate was normal

Meanwhile Koji would've killed more than just 3 with not heart beat change had the instructors not interrupted him
 
XxZetsuxX said:
That's the thing, This is what i said by overating

And how exactly is this better? He smiles, But there's not hint or indicative his heart rate was normal

Meanwhile Koji would've killed more than just 3 with not heart beat change had the instructors not interrupted him
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Yea no Yuuichi actually kills people while Koji doesn't, hell he even did so when he was literally just a kid, he literally boasted about it everywhere even though no one asked for it, in recent chapter he even seriously wants to kill an administrator of the game with a big smiling, the expression is so real that he was called "cold-hearted" or "heartless" constantly so saying that he feels something simply by killing people is a little bit off tbh. And it's just about direct murdering, if we talk about indirect murdering then his victims are confirmed to be countless, again all of this happens when he is just a child. But most importantly he just simply ignores whatever others said about his dirty past, which is a great EM feat.
 
Delta333 said:
Yea no Yuuichi actually kills people while Koji doesn't, hell he even did so when he was literally just a kid, he literally boasted about it everywhere even though no one asked for it, in recent chapter he even seriously wants to kill an administrator of the game with a big smiling, the expression is so real that he was called "cold-hearted" or "heartless" constantly so saying that he feels something simply by killing people is a little bit off tbh. And it's just about direct murdering, if we talk about indirect murdering then his victims are confirmed to be countless, again all of this happens when he is just a child. But most importantly he just simply ignores whatever others said about his dirty past, which is a great EM feat.
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Have you not watched Vol 0? Koji legit was going for the kill he stopped midway because the instructors said to Ayanokoji to stop, Koji was 9 years at the time

He didn't even bat an eye after knowing the person who helped him flee the WR died too
 
XxZetsuxX said:
Have you not watched Vol 0? Koji legit was going for the kill he stopped midway because the instructors said to Ayanokoji to stop, Koji was 9 years at the time

He didn't even bat an eye after knowing the person who helped him flee the WR died too
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Yea I know he has been stopped midway, hence I said that he can't be compared to someone who had actually experienced it too many more times, the reason for all of those deaths literally comes from him. Yea he doesn't care about that, but choosing to continue killing others as long as it benefits him (or just because he wants so, like her adoptive parents case).
 
Delta333 said:
Yea I know he has been stopped midway, hence I said that he can't be compared to someone who had actually experienced it too many more times, the reason for all of those deaths literally comes from him. Yea he doesn't care about that, but choosing to continue killing others as long as it benefits him (or just because he wants so, like her adoptive parents case).
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I don't understand how talking about your dirty past is that impressive, It really isn't
 
Delta333 said:
Forget to say that her adoptive mom is the only one in life who gives him love, for him it's the first time he knows what is actually the feeling to be loved, yea he killed her.
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His dad doesn't give him love and his mother abandoned him (More like sold him) and he legit doesn't give a crap

He never once felt the love of his parent and he doesn't give a shit
 
XxZetsuxX said:
His dad doesn't give him love and his mother abandoned him (More like sold him) and he legit doesn't give a crap

He never once felt the love of his parent and he doesn't give a shit
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Did he even know anything when it happened? If he didn't then it would not be counted as EM feat. But anyway killing someone lets you feel being loved for the first time is already better than whatever you try to prove about Koji being cold-hearted.
 
We need to update Yuichi profile like this
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Loid Forger

Loid Forger is the main protagonist of the SPY x FAMILY series. He has discarded his past life to serve his country as an undercover spy under the codename Twilight. For the current mission, he is required to marry and have a child. Thus he enters an undercover marriage with Yor Forger and...
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Whoever worked on this did a good job.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
We need to update Yuichi profile like this
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Loid Forger

Loid Forger is the main protagonist of the SPY x FAMILY series. He has discarded his past life to serve his country as an undercover spy under the codename Twilight. For the current mission, he is required to marry and have a child. Thus he enters an undercover marriage with Yor Forger and...
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Whoever worked on this did a good job.
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I tried to replicate the format for Powers and Abilities in his profile. Though yes, he has some very wanked abilities of fear manipulation, and others maybe, idk. He definitely requires a good amount of revision to say at the least.
 
Delta333 said:
Did he even know anything when it happened? If he didn't then it would not be counted as EM feat. But anyway killing someone lets you feel being loved for the first time is already better than whatever you try to prove about Koji being cold-hearted.
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Evil
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
@RoggerReggor @Reiner04
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EldemadeDityjon/Sandbox10

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I slightly altered the format for the verse page can you people check if it looks good.
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It looks great, but I think you should use a clearer image for the manga cover. On 100% zoom in the Desktop, it looks blurry.

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I tried using AI and doubled the resolution of the image.

 
Reiner04 said:
Let me know if I messed up somewhere.
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Tomodachi game: Tenji saving sawaragi from gaku

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As I said, this feat is still pretty debatable, considering how these guys aren't meant to be superhumans to this degree, and haven't done anything which gets their speed around the level. The most arguable thing would be that Sawaragi isn't even looking at the scene. This is similar to a Tokyo Revengers feat I remember wasn't accepted due to similar reasons, if you see here, the feat is almost the same (except for the fact that the supposed outspeeder here also kicks the gun out of the shooter's hand, and the accepted calc of that used 1 meter as an assumption, instead of roughly 3 to 9 meters), the person who is going to get shot isn't looking at the shooter, so them being shocked doesn't justify it. Although it's current status, I believe an anime adaptation can easily prove its validity, and I am personally interested in it, but calculating it now doesn't seem much fruitful.

As for the calc, I don't see anything wrong with it if it satisfies the context of your assumption.. About the bullet speed, you should use 90 m/s as they weren't using real bullets, but rather paintball guns (source for the speed).
 
Reiner04 said:
Paint bullets exist irl?
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They do it seems
The muzzle velocity of paintball markers is approximately 90 m/s (300 ft/s); most paintball fields restrict speed to 280–300 ft/s, and small indoor fields may further restrict it down to 250 ft/s. While greater muzzle velocity is possible, it has been ruled unsafe for use on most commercial paintball fields.
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Paintball marker - Wikipedia

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