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(This post is mostly a Copy-Paste from a post I made on Xeno Goku's profile. So, I apologize if this may seem rather long, and pretty much repeated from the Xeno Goku profile thread I made yesterday)
So, I saw this post on the DB Reddit, where someone tried to clarify who the **** these 2 Goku's are, and what timeline Heroes was set in:
"-This isn't a continuation of Super, nor GT. This is set in its own timeline.
-The Goku that has SSB is a Goku from a timeline where the events of Super are for the most part the same. It takes place after the ToP, but most importantly.
-The Goku that has SSJ4 is Goku: Xeno, a Goku from a reeeeally different timeline where:
So, basically, CC Goku's basically gone through most of the events Super Goku's gone through, at around the same scenario. Well, for the most part, at least. However, he's still (in a sense) Super Goku. Now, as you can see. We have Son Goku (Super) at Low 2-C. However, if CC Goku's basically, for the most part, the same as Super Goku in terms of Power and such (And remember, this CC Goku's ALSO gone through the ToP as well), and if he defeat Xeno SSJ4 Goku in combat (Which is confirmed VIA Spoiler texts)...then...
Wouldn't Super Goku be 2-B as well, since he's basically around the same level as CC Goku, who's basically Super Goku for the most part?!
Now, before anyone gets crazy, lemme explain (By using ACTUAL arguments):
"This is basically the difference between Dragon Ball Z Goku and Toeiverse Goku. Different continuities and feats so you can't scale them to each other. So no 2-B DBS Goku upgrade he's staying at Low 2-C."
Except CC Goku's basically Super Goku, with the same feats applied to him and everything. He only has VERY MINOR changes to him in his Timeline. And that's...MINOR at best.
There's nothing in CC Goku's timeline that's made him Stronger and more powerful than his Super Goku counterpart. CC Goku's gone through the same scenario's as Super Goku, he's gone through the same Arcs, the same threats, and so forth. Nothing extra. Nothing less.
Besides, this is basically Toriyama's way of doing Xeno Goku (SSJ4) Vs Canon Goku, without actually having to put in Canon Goku to confuse the fans.
"Doesn't matter they are from different continuities. Also one is canon the other isn't."
Different continuities, yes. However, they're also the same in power/have gone through the same stuff. So, that shouldn't really matter.
I mean, I get it, they're from different timelines. But, that shouldn't automatically mean they're 100% going to be different in Power. That's like saying, if you're in a different timeline, then the same result won't be possible from the last one you were in beforehand. Trust me, i've seen Madoka Magica. The same thing applied every single time. Ahaha, get it? Time? No? Ugh...
Now, take that, but with Power. They're not gonna instantly vary all because they're both in "DIFFERENT CONTINUATIONS"! They're gone through the same of everything, mostly in the same Scenarios. Sure, there may have been differences, but those differences NEVER affected their Power. Super Goku has fought Kefla, Jiren, Anilaza, Zamasu, Black and co. Same with CC Goku. CC Goku has U.I. Super Goku ALSO has U.I. They both had the same outcomes in their arcs.
I know, I know, this is rather confusing, and it might not pass, but...still.
So, I saw this post on the DB Reddit, where someone tried to clarify who the **** these 2 Goku's are, and what timeline Heroes was set in:
"-This isn't a continuation of Super, nor GT. This is set in its own timeline.
-The Goku that has SSB is a Goku from a timeline where the events of Super are for the most part the same. It takes place after the ToP, but most importantly.
-The Goku that has SSJ4 is Goku: Xeno, a Goku from a reeeeally different timeline where:
- GT, Movie 8 and Movie 12 happened.
- He became an SSG tru the ritual, but he never learned to master it.
- He wasn't dead when he fought Janemba, but he got killed by Towa 'cause she wasn't interested in him. He gets revived tho.
- Everything from RoF to the ToP never happened.
- He's strong as shit.
So, basically, CC Goku's basically gone through most of the events Super Goku's gone through, at around the same scenario. Well, for the most part, at least. However, he's still (in a sense) Super Goku. Now, as you can see. We have Son Goku (Super) at Low 2-C. However, if CC Goku's basically, for the most part, the same as Super Goku in terms of Power and such (And remember, this CC Goku's ALSO gone through the ToP as well), and if he defeat Xeno SSJ4 Goku in combat (Which is confirmed VIA Spoiler texts)...then...
Wouldn't Super Goku be 2-B as well, since he's basically around the same level as CC Goku, who's basically Super Goku for the most part?!
Now, before anyone gets crazy, lemme explain (By using ACTUAL arguments):
"This is basically the difference between Dragon Ball Z Goku and Toeiverse Goku. Different continuities and feats so you can't scale them to each other. So no 2-B DBS Goku upgrade he's staying at Low 2-C."
Except CC Goku's basically Super Goku, with the same feats applied to him and everything. He only has VERY MINOR changes to him in his Timeline. And that's...MINOR at best.
There's nothing in CC Goku's timeline that's made him Stronger and more powerful than his Super Goku counterpart. CC Goku's gone through the same scenario's as Super Goku, he's gone through the same Arcs, the same threats, and so forth. Nothing extra. Nothing less.
Besides, this is basically Toriyama's way of doing Xeno Goku (SSJ4) Vs Canon Goku, without actually having to put in Canon Goku to confuse the fans.
"Doesn't matter they are from different continuities. Also one is canon the other isn't."
Different continuities, yes. However, they're also the same in power/have gone through the same stuff. So, that shouldn't really matter.
I mean, I get it, they're from different timelines. But, that shouldn't automatically mean they're 100% going to be different in Power. That's like saying, if you're in a different timeline, then the same result won't be possible from the last one you were in beforehand. Trust me, i've seen Madoka Magica. The same thing applied every single time. Ahaha, get it? Time? No? Ugh...
Now, take that, but with Power. They're not gonna instantly vary all because they're both in "DIFFERENT CONTINUATIONS"! They're gone through the same of everything, mostly in the same Scenarios. Sure, there may have been differences, but those differences NEVER affected their Power. Super Goku has fought Kefla, Jiren, Anilaza, Zamasu, Black and co. Same with CC Goku. CC Goku has U.I. Super Goku ALSO has U.I. They both had the same outcomes in their arcs.
I know, I know, this is rather confusing, and it might not pass, but...still.
