Tier 9 revision

[Overlord775]

There is a huge problem with the current tier 9-C to 9-B and it is shown in the Composite Human profile

By definition all his physical stats should be peak human/street tier because all the feats come from real life humans, but they go beyond what this wiki considers humanly possible.

I propose that we raise the baseline of 9-B to something like 17 KiloJoules.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Wouldn't that result in a massive revision?

An easier way is too raise the definition of "superhuman" to Room level, and Wall level characters are only peak human. Makes sense, would downgrade Batman (movie version) back to peak human.

 

[Overlord775]

Wouldn't that result in a massive revision?
An easier way is too raise the definition of "superhuman" to Room level, and Wall level characters are only peak human. Makes sense, would downgrade Batman (movie version) back to peak human.

that would work too

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Isn't CH's Wall level durability based on a guy who had bones 8x more dense than a regular human's?

That pretty much isn't possible by normal human means. He was born with a genetic mutation of some sort IIRC.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It's not just his Durability, CH has Wall level AP too.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Since when in the hell--

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»

 

[Assaltwaffle]

A full body martial arts jump kick is going to deal way more damage than a punch, even a punch from a boxer.

Also some humans are not normal. At all. The guy with super bone density has something you can't get through training, and thus goes beyond Peak human. Hysterical strength takes up beyond what can be hit by training.

I really don't agree with this kind of massive change based on one-off cases.

 

[Therefir]

In the same program says that Bren Foster's kick have 1043 pounds of force, I don't know if this is Wall level.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Therefir

We calced the energy with joules based on his leg speed and leg mass.

Force cannot be put into our tiering system.

 

[Therefir]

There is a converter of pounds to joule/metre, the result that gave me was 4639.495 joules.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

That is incorrect. It can't be done. Joule is a SI unit of work and Newtwon is a SI unit of force. They cannot be converted and any conversion method is unofficial and dubious.

 

[Therefir]

Okay, but I'm going to redo the calc since I found the true weight of Bren Foster.

 

[The_Everlasting]

A full body martial arts jump kick is going to deal way more damage than a punch, even a punch from a boxer.
Also some humans are not normal. At all. The guy with super bone density has something you can't get through training, and thus goes beyond Peak human. Hysterical strength takes up beyond what can be hit by training.

I really don't agree with this kind of massive change based on one-off cases.

This.

There have been real life humans who can lift several tons, but we aren't bumping up Peak Human for that.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Also our 9-B AP for Composite Human isn't physically possible, since we use the weight of the heaviest human who ever lived with the fastest quicker, which obviously can't happen at the same time.

 

[The_Everlasting]

>fastest quicker

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

F A S T E S T Q U I C K E R

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Kicker. sssh.

 

[Overlord775]

Also our 9-B AP for Composite Human isn't physically possible, since we use the weight of the heaviest human who ever lived with the fastest quicker, which obviously can't happen at the same time.

i'm pretty sure we use the calc with avarage american weight

 

[Therefir]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/Composite_Human_Top_Strength

The result was 15524.56 joules using the weight of Bren Foster.

 

[Amexim]

I mean... Composite Human doesn't exist IRL, so... Why not give him literally everything that exists IRL, and ignore the issues. I mean, realistically speaking, I don't think anyone could train as much as Usain Bolt, and EVERY SINGLE top tier human in our server. So... Oof.

Also, I honestly would still personally see anything done by humans as a part of human Strength-- I mean, the guy with bone density is just as much of a human as me, who has curved pinkies. Mutations shouldn't make you any less part of a species imo.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Kicker. sssh.

Ben Foster's kick even without max weight is still 9-B for his kick.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Man, real life is badass.

 

[Crzer07]

ive seen one time on fight science where a karate guy's tibia is harder than baseball bats and broke them with kicks.apparently bone density can be conditioned to become harder, but i dunno if that would call for wall lvl

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Basically what AssaltWaffle and Everlasting said, also, I don't think this is really up for discussion. So could we close the thread?

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Why are you bumping this? Is there anything else to be discussed?

 

[Overlord775]

Why are you bumping this? Is there anything else to be discussed?

i don't know how to close a tread ovo