Thunder McQueen fights a muffin

[Stalker_Maggot]

This could be a stomp but eh

Thunder McQueen (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) vs Mr. Muffi

Speed is equalized

 

[Buttersamuri]

Neither can kill each other I think. Mequeen doesn't have a counter to probability manipulation that I see or understand. Inconclusive I suppose

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

1 for Incon

 

[Jackythejack]

can probability manipulation stop Thunder from killing himself tho

 

[Buttersamuri]

I don't think so.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

So if Thunder kills himself, wouldn't the Muffin win?

 

[Jackythejack]

I think his stand would then also just...kill the muffin

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Then Incon?

 

[Jackythejack]

Yeh incon. Just...different reason then what Butters says

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

That's 2 for incon

 

[The_Calaca]

"Hey McQueen, do you want to eat me?"

"No thanks, Mr. Muffin, I just want to die."

"Well, me too!"

Inconclusive for the same as always.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

3 for Incon

 

[The_Impress]

Wait, doesn't the stand require Thunder's will to target a person?

So, if Thunder isn't willing to target the muffin (which probability manipulation may arrange), and he kills himself, wouldn't Mr. Muffin survive?

 

[Buttersamuri]

Oh. That's actually true. Cause he has an issue with being targeted. That's a valid point. I think I may switch to Muffin

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

So the votes are

0 for McQueen

? for the Muffin

2 (unless Butter switched his vote) for Incon

 

[Junkoposter]

incon skulls for the incon throne! (incon FRA)

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

That's 2 or 3 for Incon then

 

[Buttersamuri]

I'm going with muffin for now. For Zarks reasons

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

So

Muffin has 1

Thunder has 0

Incon has 3

 

[The_Impress]

I'll vote Muffin too ig

 

[Migue79]

Taken from Mr. Muffin's profile:

Probability Manipulation (Despite being suicidal, any attempts at getting someone to kill them never works out)

Voting for the Muffin too

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

3 for Muffin

 

[LuciusIsMas]

Incon

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

FRA?

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump

 

[DragonEmperor23]

incon fra

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

4 for Incon

 

[GoCommitDi]

muffin fra

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

4 for the Muffin

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Just saying, " Probability Manipulation (Despite being suicidal, any attempts at getting someone to kill them never works out)" would not activate because Thunder is not killing him because Muffin asked him to.

 

[Buttersamuri]

It would be they don't want to kill the Muffin. McQueen wouldn't want to kill the muffin and neither would his stand do to the Probability. And muffins tend to outlive humans. So he outlives

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Outliving is not a wincondition.

 

[Buttersamuri]

It out loving someone has given fights to plenty others. I've seen it work at least. As a muffin. He couldn't really age to death.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Where have you seen fights added to pages because one character outlived the other?

 

[Pocket_Shark]

incon FRA

 

[Buttersamuri]

Where have you seen fights added to pages because one character outlived the other?

here's one where they say outlives. Even said by multiple Discussion mods.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Standard_Battle_Assumptions

"Victory Conditions: Killing the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions."

Can you explain to me which of these conditions you can get "this character lives longer than the other" to fit under?

 

[Madotsuki24]

Since Muffin's probability manipulation makes him pretty much unable to die, he would get so lucky (or unlucky, either way) that McQueen would not use his will on Muffin and kill himself and Muffin survives. Probability manipulation is one of the most OP abilities you can have, trust me. Muffin FRA.