The Witcher (Games) CRT: True Higher Vampires

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Higher Vampires:​

• Regeneration (Mid-High in over time: "They are invulnerable to sunlight, fire, and silver, and have unbelievable regenerative powers which allow them to return to life even after beheading, dismemberment, or incineration- though in such cases the process may take many decades.")
• Immortality and Regeneration Negation (Mid-High and Type 5: Higher vampires can kill each other, suggesting that they can bypass their own immortality and regeneration, but only with deadly blow)
• Immortality: (Type 5: Higher vampires are unbound by conventional death)
• Addition to Enhanced Senses (Vampires can see in the dark)
• Addition to Resistance to Enhanced Senses and Clairvoyance (Enhanced Sight, Retrocognition and Precognition: Regis stated that vampires can evade the senses and that they are immune to divination magics, even the most precise megascope would be useless. Divination magics included oneiromancy, the magic art deciphering the past and the future as they appear in dreams. Geralt used this magic to search for Ciri.)

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[TWILIGHT-OP]

The Witchers:​

• Resistance to Corruption: (Type 1: "It has the ability to possess human bodies thus granting it corporeal form and a means to wreak havoc. This process, however, irreparably corrupts and damages the host, causing the miasmal to continuously seek out stronger, more durable bodies. What cruel irony, then, that a witcher's immunity makes the monster slayer a perfect shell for the specter to invade and control.") Bestiary Entry
• Resistance to Paralysis: ("Day 7. Administered extract of cowbane and hemlock. In typical representatives of the human and Aen Seidhe species such a mixture provokes paralysis of the peripheral nervous system, and eventually the nerve endings as well. This results in muscular, skeletal, pulmonary and cardiac paralysis, and ultimately death through suffocation.The witcher is not, however, a typical representative of any species. Though the poison did seem to cause some mild irritation (sic!) in his nervous system, his mutated body quickly managed to neutralize the harmful alkaloids.") Laboratory Notebook
• Resistance Negation or Higher Fire manipulation: (Geralt can temporarily affect Detlaff with Igni, although higher vampires are totally immune to fire.)

None of them have scans attached with the claims, also rather linking the whole page you should get the scan from there and quote it here.

Higher Vampires:​

• Regeneration (Mid-High: "They are invulnerable to sunlight, fire, and silver, and have unbelievable regenerative powers which allow them to return to life even after beheading, dismemberment, or incineration- though in such cases the process may take many decades.")
• Immortality Negation (Type 5: Higher vampires can kill each other, suggesting that they can bypass their own immortality)
• Immortality: (Type 5: Higher vampires are unbound by conventional life and death)
• Resistance to Precognition should be added here:

I don't see immortalaity type 5 here?

"Divinations magic" also includes seeing the future

Plz do not use other wikis info here , and if possible you should get original scans from the game.

Genies:​

• Power Nullification: (Only a djinn can nullify the spell of another djinn. The djinn in the video has nullified the fate manipulation of another djinn.)

Idk , but sounds like limited power nullification

• Stamina: Infinite ("Unusually powerful sorcerers can sometimes bind such beings and bend them to their will, thus acquiring tremendous might to the point of near omnipotence. For a genie, being the living personification of an Element's energies, is akin to an almost boundless reservoir of the Power. Thus, its master can draw energy from the genie for spell casting, without the tiresome need to channel from traditional sources") Elemental Empires
• Reality Warping should be removed from the djinn profile, because the wishes they give are just magic according to Yennefer, magic spells, and they should have all the magic spells of the Witcher verse because of this: ("They can fling off spells in an instant that the most accomplished human mages could never cast with years of preparation.") Bestiary Entry.

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Again i suggest you should not use other wiki stuff here,
If u can get the original scans from game then it can help.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

None of them have scans attached with the claims, also rather linking the whole page you should get the scan from there and quote it here.

Plz do not use other wikis info here , and if possible you should get original scans from the game.

Again i suggest you should not use other wiki stuff here,
If u can get the original scans from game then it can help.

I will try to find passages on youtube but I cannot guarantee that I will succeed

Idk , but sounds like limited power nullification

why limited ?

I don't see immortalaity type 5 here?

Regis explains that when he was reduced to a shapeless mass due to Vilgefortz's spell, he was still alive, he could still feel an emotion like fear. Matter of his species can exist without form, they need neither heart, nor brain nor air to breathe. When Geralt asks Regis if he was dead, Regis responds by saying "As humans understand death, yes", implying that he is not bound to a conventional death. No species in the verse is capable of killing a higher vampire, even if the latter has been reduced to a liquid state like Regis.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I'll evaluate this later.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I'll evaluate this later.

Thanks

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Regis explains that when he was reduced to a shapeless mass due to Vilgefortz's spell, he was still alive, he could still feel an emotion like fear. Matter of his species can exist without form, they need neither heart, nor brain nor air to breathe. When Geralt asks Regis if he was dead, Regis responds by saying "As humans understand death, yes", implying that he is not bound to a conventional death. No species in the verse is capable of killing a higher vampire, even if the latter has been reduced to a liquid state like Regis.

It seems similar to the Great Old One:

• Immortality (Type 1, 3, 4, and 5. The Great Old Ones are incredibly resilient beings, with Cthulhu alone being vigintillions of years old.[1] When the stars are right, they will resurrect from their deaths and reawaken once more, and although they are considered 'dead', they can never truly die[2])

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I prefer this CRT to just focus on Higher Vampires so I removed the other possible additions. I would do separate CRTs for witchers and djinns (because there is already a lot to say)

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

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[UchihaSlayer96]

Higher Vampires:​

• Regeneration (Mid-High in over time: "They are invulnerable to sunlight, fire, and silver, and have unbelievable regenerative powers which allow them to return to life even after beheading, dismemberment, or incineration- though in such cases the process may take many decades.")

This is fine, but it's purely an overtime thing. So the Regeneration of Higher Vampires would look something like this:

Regeneration (Low-Mid normally. Mid-High over time; [Add justification for Low-Mid. Basically any regen feats they showed in combat, such as Dettlaf's feats]. Higher vampires have unbelievable regenerative powers which allow them to return to life even after beheading, dismemberment, or incineration- though in such cases the process may take many decades)

Something like this should work. Also, it's very important that you add references to these abilities, both in the OP and on the profiles.

• Immortality and Regeneration Negation (Mid-High and Type 5: Higher vampires can kill each other, suggesting that they can bypass their own immortality and regeneration, but only with deadly blow)
• Immortality: (Type 5: Higher vampires are unbound by conventional death)
• Addition to Enhanced Senses (Vampires can see in the dark)
• Addition to Resistance to Enhanced Senses and Clairvoyance (Enhanced Sight, Retrocognition and Precognition: Regis stated that vampires can evade the senses and that they are immune to divination magics, even the most precise megascope would be useless. Divination magics included oneiromancy, the magic art deciphering the past and the future as they appear in dreams. Geralt used this magic to search for Ciri.)

The rest of these are fine, but again, you need to add references.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

This is fine, but it's purely an overtime thing. So the Regeneration of Higher Vampires would look something like this:

Regeneration (Low-Mid normally. Mid-High over time; [Add justification for Low-Mid. Basically any regen feats they showed in combat, such as Dettlaf's feats]. Higher vampires have unbelievable regenerative powers which allow them to return to life even after beheading, dismemberment, or incineration- though in such cases the process may take many decades)

Something like this should work. Also, it's very important that you add references to these abilities, both in the OP and on the profiles.

The rest of these are fine, but again, you need to add references.

So here is what I propose for the pages of Regis, Detlaff and the Unseen Elder (I will add the references when I apply the changes in the pages.)

Regis​

Power and Abilities:

• Enhanced Sense (Like witchers, higher vampires can see in the dark and are ever vigilant even during sleep. They also have hearing similar to that of witchers and a superior sense of smell.)
• Self-Sustenance (Type 1, 2 and 3: Higher vampires' matter can exist without form. They require neither a heart nor a brain nor air to breathe.)
• Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3 and 5) and Regeneration (Low-Mid, Mid-High over time: Regis' body can heal big hole made through his body, and he said wounds such as these heal on vampires on moments. Dettlaff's body regenerated from a bisection. Higher vampires can regenerate even after beheading, dismemberment, or incineration- though in such cases the process may take many decades. Higher vampires can never truly die, even after melting and reducing to a liquid state.)
• Immortality (Type 2, 3 and 5) and Regeneration Negation (Mid-High: Higher Vampires can kill each other, suggesting that they can bypass their own immortality and regeneration, but only with deadly blow. Regis killed Dettlaff.)
• Natural Weaponry, Body Control and Biological Manipulation (Higher vampires can change their corporeal shell. As their flesh changes, so does their blood's chemical composition. Can grow their nails to use as weapons.)
• Berserk Mode (Higher vampires can enter a fury state that they cannot control.)
• Invisibility (Higher vampires can turn invisible.)
• Teleportation (Higher vampires can teleport.)
• Shapeshifting, Smoke Manipulation and Flight (Higher vampires can turn into bloody fog to envelop opponents and flight. They also can transform into giant bat, and Regis did this in Lady of the Lake.)
• Animal and Mind Manipulation (Higher Vampires can manipulate men and animals. Regis has shown himself to be able to control ravens. Geralt said their gaze can mesmerize men. They can control bats in their winged form.)
• Sleep Manipulation (Geralt said higher vampires' gaze can put men to sleep, and Regis did this to guards in Baptism of Fire.)
• Transformation (Higher vampires can take winged form.)
• Illusion Creation (Winged Form Dettlaff put Geralt in an illusion with a bite.)
• Acrobatics (Regis and Dettlaff are capable of performing acrobatic tricks in combat.)
• Martial Art and Weapon Mastery (Regis can hold his own against Dettlaff, who can himself hold his own against Geralt. Higher vampires strikes in surprising and unique ways, and can wielding their razor-sharp claws with great precision and wield human's weapons with extraordinary skill. Geralt said that hundred skilled guardsmen from Beauclair will not be enough to defeat a higher vampire.)
• Resistance to Poison Manipulation (Higher Vampires are immune to a toxin that is lethal to a witcher.)
• Resistance to Fire Manipulation (Higher vampires are immune to fire.)
• Resistance to Temperature Manipulation (In Baptism of Fire, Regis was able to pick up a hot horseshoe with his bare hands without showing any burns.)
• Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Regis implied that Axii doesn't work on him)
• Resistance to Enhanced Senses and Clairvoyance (Regis stated than vampires can evade detections by the senses, and no divination magic work on them. Even the most precise megascope would be useless. Megascopes are used to see someone in another place on the continent. Dettlaff cannot be heard by Geralt's enhanced hearing.)
• Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (Higher Vampires cannot be detected by witcher's medallion.)
• Resistance to Life and Death Manipulation (Thanks to their immortality Type 5)

Dettlaff​

Dettlaff has everything I mentioned for Regis plus Summoning (Each vampire has a unique talent, and Dettlaff's is to be able to call the lesser vampires to help him.)

Unseen Elder​

Unseen Elder has everything I mentioned for Regis plus Surface Scaling (He spends most if not all day hanging on the ceiling in his lair.) and Paralysis (Can paralyze Regis.)

For the stamina, all three should have this:
- Superhuman (Regis tolerates the pain of a hole made through his body.)

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

All of these seem fine to me.

Resistance to Life and Death Manipulation (Thanks to their immortality Type 5)

This is unnecessary, though.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

All of these seem fine to me.

This is unnecessary, though.

Okay.

When we are finished with Regis, Dettlaff, and Unseen Elder (at least two moderator opinions are necessary I think?), I would suggest revisions and additions (notably additions of sources) for the pages of the other vampires in this thread (it is better to do them all in the same thread instead of doing them separately)

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

at least two moderator opinions are necessary I think?

Yeah, that's right. You can ask other mods to comment here. on their walls.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Yeah, that's right. You can ask other mods to comment here. on their walls.

I've already done it for 3-4 moderators, but it doesn't seem to interest them or they don't want to give their opinions because they haven't played the games

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I'll try to ask a few then.

 

[M3X_2.0]

So here is what I propose for the pages of Regis, Detlaff and the Unseen Elder (I will add the references when I apply the changes in the pages.)

Regis​

Power and Abilities:

• Enhanced Sense (Like witchers, higher vampires can see in the dark and are ever vigilant even during sleep. They also have hearing similar to that of witchers and a superior sense of smell.)
• Self-Sustenance (Type 1, 2 and 3: Higher vampires' matter can exist without form. They require neither a heart nor a brain nor air to breathe.)
• Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3 and 5) and Regeneration (Low-Mid, Mid-High over time: Regis' body can heal big hole made through his body, and he said wounds such as these heal on vampires on moments. Dettlaff's body regenerated from a bisection. Higher vampires can regenerate even after beheading, dismemberment, or incineration- though in such cases the process may take many decades. Higher vampires can never truly die, even after melting and reducing to a liquid state.)
• Immortality (Type 2, 3 and 5) and Regeneration Negation (Mid-High: Higher Vampires can kill each other, suggesting that they can bypass their own immortality and regeneration, but only with deadly blow.)
• Natural Weaponry, Body Control and Biological Manipulation (Higher vampires can change their corporeal shell. As their flesh changes, so does their blood's chemical composition. Can grow their nails to use as weapons.)
• Berserk Mode (Higher vampires can enter a fury state that they cannot control.)
• Invisibility (Higher vampires can turn invisible.)
• Teleportation (Higher vampires can teleport.)
• Shapeshifting, Smoke Manipulation and Flight (Higher vampires can turn into bloody fog to envelop opponents and flight. They also can transform into giant bat.)
• Animal and Mind Manipulation (Higher Vampires can manipulate men and animals. Regis has shown himself to be able to control ravens. Geralt said their gaze can mesmerize men. They can control bats in their winged form.)
• Sleep Manipulation (Geralt said higher vampires' gaze can put men to sleep. Regis also did this to guards in Baptism of Fire.)
• Transformation (Higher vampires can take winged form.)
• Illusion Creation (Winged Form Dettlaff put Geralt in an illusion with a bite.)
• Acrobatics (Regis and Dettlaff are capable of performing acrobatic tricks in combat.)
• Martial Art and Weapon Mastery (Regis can hold his own against Dettlaff, who can himself hold his own against Geralt. Higher vampires strikes in surprising and unique ways, and can wielding their razor-sharp claws with great precision and wield human's weapons with extraordinary skill. Geralt said that hundred skilled guardsmen from Beauclair will not be enough to defeat a higher vampire.)
• Resistance to Poison Manipulation (Higher Vampires are immune to a toxin that is lethal to a witcher.)
• Resistance to Fire Manipulation (Higher vampires are immune to fire.)
• Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Regis implied that Axii doesn't work on him)
• Resistance to Enhanced Senses and Clairvoyance (Regis stated than vampires can evade detections by the senses, and no divination magic work on them. Even the most precise megascope would be useless. Megascopes are used to see someone in another place on the continent. Dettlaff cannot be heard by Geralt's enhanced hearing.)
• Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (Higher Vampires cannot be detected by witcher's medallion.)
• Resistance to Life and Death Manipulation (Thanks to their immortality Type 5)

Dettlaff​

Dettlaff has everything I mentioned for Regis plus Summoning (Each vampire has a unique talent, and Dettlaff's is to be able to call the lesser vampires to help him.)

Unseen Elder​

Unseen Elder has everything I mentioned for Regis plus Surface Scaling (He spends most if not all day hanging on the ceiling in his lair.) and Paralysis (Can paralyze Regis.)

For the stamina, all three should have this:
- Superhuman (Regis tolerates the pain of a hole made through his body.)

I agree with everything.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

So changes and additions can be applied?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

As stupid as it is (and it is stupid), CGMs unfortunately don't have evaluation rights.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

As stupid as it is (and it is stupid), CGMs unfortunately don't have evaluation rights.

Shame

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[LordTracer]

This is fine, the changes here seem fairly self-evident and that’s the only reason I’m commenting here

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

This is fine, the changes here seem fairly self-evident and that’s the only reason I’m commenting here

Thank you!

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I applied the changes, now here is what I propose for other higher vampires.:

Bruxae​

• Invisibility (Bruxae can turn invisible)
• Limited Animal Manipulation (Bruxae have close ties to birds)
• Telepathy (Many higher vampires possess telepathic powers)
• Transformation (Many higher vampires are capable of transformation)
• Blood Manipulation (According to the Journal Entry from The Witcher 2, the bruxae have masterful control over their blood circulation, rendering poisons and oils that increase bleeding ineffective against them)
• Sound Manipulation (Bruxae can emit shock wave)
• Shapeshifting and Air Manipulation (Bruxae can turn into air)
• Enhanced Senses (Bruxae emerge from their shelters only at night)
• Acrobatics (Can easily jump and land on the ground without injury)
• Martial Arts (Can fight against Geralt)
• Bodily Weaponry (Teeth and claws)

Alps​

• Sleep Manipulation and Dream Manipulation (Alp saliva can make one fall asleep, and when applied to a sleeping man, can invoke horrible nightmares)
• Telepathy (Many higher vampires possess telepathic powers)
• Transformation (Many higher vampires are capable of transformation)
• Sound Manipulation (Like Bruxae, Alps can emit a shrieking noise whose shock wave can incapacitate)
• Acrobatics (Alps' greatest asset is their agility and they can leap with uncanny lightness that appears to border the power of flight)
• Martial Arts (Alps are unequaled in the art of evading blows)
• Enhanced Senses (Alps attack at night)
• Bodily Weaponry (Teeth and claws)

Stamina: Superhuman (Alps have incredible stamina even by vampire standards)

Katakans​

• Invisibility (Katakans can turn invisible)
• Telepathy (Many higher vampires possess telepathic powers)
• Transformation (Many higher vampires are capable of transformation)
• Regeneration (Unkown: Katakans can regenerate quickly)
• Enhanced Senses (Katakans attack at night and hear acutely)
• Bodily Weaponry (Teeth and claws)
• Longevity (Katakan can live for hundred of years)

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

And later I'll do the same thing to lesser vampires

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

You know, it'd probably be best to do the rest of the vampires in a new OP.
I believe that's the general standard, but it'll also help get more traction I think.

The above changes mostly seem fine at a quick glance btw, but I'll look at them more closely when I have more time.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

You know, it'd probably be best to do the rest of the vampires in a new OP.
I believe that's the general standard, but it'll also help get more traction I think.

Okay, this thread can be closed then

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Closing. You can message me on my wall with the new thread.