The Warhammer 40K Galaxy vs. the Star Wars Galaxy

[LordXcano]

Both galaxies are intersecting like this. Which galaxy is which is a bit irrelevant, as there's no direction in space. The version of Star Wars we're talking about happens to be Legends, so the hyperspace disturbance preventing them from crossing the edge of the galaxy is still in play. In addition, the timeframe here is 0 BBY, just as Episode IV occurs.

As for WH40K, Chaos is responsible for accidentally warping the WH40K galaxy into the SW universe, where they have no influence. This means that there is no encroaching Tyranid swarm to worry about, nor any Daemons. Psykers still have their abilities, but it is through Hyperspace, not the Warp. At the cost of being able to guide themselves and their new FTL method being safe and reliable, the Emperor is pronounced dead.

On top of this, Kid Buu manifests near the core of the Star Wars galaxy, immediately setting out to destroy the entire galaxy.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Quickly turns into a massive fustercluck of intergalactic proportions.

 

[Aparajita]

IoM stomps, hard.

The Imperial Guard Codex states, "Although I (a guardsman) may not be as valiant as my Space Marine brothers, for each of my brothers, one million Guardsmen stand behind him."

The Guard routinely suffers millions of casualities daily and it's not even recorded because of how large the Guard actually is.

That's not including the Marines and other orders, all who are beyond the Imperial Armies of the Empire.

The Loyalist Primarchs and Psykers are far beyond Jedi strength, as they're literal reality warpers. Now they're not controlled by the Warp and risk terrible influences from the Chaos Gods, so they're just free to (in some cases) literally tear planets apart with their minds.

The strongest of the Primarchs are comparable to Sanginius, who is, barely, comparable to Horus.

During his battle with the Emperor, Horus and the Emperor struck with "forces to level planets." and that was with the two holding back temporarily, before Horus was enraged at the casual death of his Traitor Legions.


The strongest weapons that the Empire possesses at the time, is the dysfunctional Death Star, which focus fire from Imperial Navy would decimate. Understand that the Eldar and Dark Eldar both have access to shielding technology. Eventually, the sheer firepower would break apart the shields.

Also remember that IoM tech uses primarily ballistic projectiles, with some exceptions. In SW, the Shields have no defense against physical projectiles.


The Emperor, unless we went by EU feats (which this is not the EU Emperor nor anywhere near his peak), would be able to casually slaughter millions or more of the Guardsmen and even destroy the Space Marines (with some exceptions, of course) who stood against him, while the Imperial Navy and the sheer size of the IoM devastates the SW Galaxy and the major planets responsible for production of the Empire, like Kuat, Hypori, Mon Calamari, Fondor, and Corellia.


I don't see how the Empire has any chance against the IoM.

Buu's AoE would wreak havoc, but Buu has no resistence to mindhax, and would be put down by a combined Strip Soul of thousands upon thousands of psykers. Strip Soul is pretty much a mindmelt.

 

[Jockey-1337]

WH forces of course. They have much more ships, their ships are probably better than SW ones.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I'm no expert on 40k, but my friend has told me a lot and from what I remember:

• 40k ships could ram through SW ships like a hot knife through butter
• SW ships have the advantage of being able to travel at hyperspace and the 40k equivalent is unpredictable and problematic (the warp)
• Lightsabers are like wooden sticks when hitting 40k armour

 

[Aparajita]

• 40k ships could ram through SW ships like a hot knife through butter
• SW ships have the advantage of being able to travel at hyperspace and the 40k equivalent is unpredictable and problematic (the warp)
• Lightsabers are like wooden sticks when hitting 40k armour

Not really. The SW ships are pretty good in a lot of cases.

Correct. SW also has the advantage of no internal or external wars with the exception of the Rebellion disrupting construction.

Incorrect. Lightsabers are more akin to Power Weapons.

 

[LordXcano]

"The Guard routinely suffers millions of casualities daily and it's not even recorded because of how large the Guard actually is.

That's not including the Marines and other orders, all who are beyond the Imperial Armies of the Empire."


The Legends galaxy canonically holds 1 billion inhabited star systems with over 100 quadrillion sentients.

The Imperium, on the other hand, has an estimated 500 trillio on Hive Worlds alone. This is impressive, but the Imperium holds merely over 1 million worlds. Even assuming that by "over 1 million" they mean 1,500,000 and that each planet that isn't a Hive World (32,380) has the same amount of population as does the least populated Hive World (1,000,000,000) that means the total population of the Imperium is 1.467 quadrillion souls.

So not only does the SW Galaxy have nearly 100x the population, it has 1000x the territory. And this is being generous to the Imperium.

"The Loyalist Primarchs and Psykers are far beyond Jedi strength, as they're literal reality warpers.

Now they're not controlled by the Warp and risk terrible influences from the Chaos Gods, so they're just free to (in some cases) literally tear planets apart with their minds."

This is true, but there are merely 20 of them with no bearings and likely no idea what just happened. But, assuming they started work immediately, they would need to destroy over 34,000 planets per day in order to take out just 25% of the Empire in a year. This is assuming maximum efficiency with no breaks.

"The strongest weapons that the Empire possesses at the time, is the dysfunctional Death Star, which focus fire from Imperial Navy would decimate. Understand that the Eldar and Dark Eldar both have access to shielding technology. Eventually, the sheer firepower would break apart the shields."

This is assuming not only that they know where the Death Star is, but also what it does and that the Empire would not muster a fleet to defend it if they ever decided to use it. Given that they made a second one in just 4 years and with secrecy it is likely they can build more.

"Also remember that IoM tech uses primarily ballistic projectiles, with some exceptions. In SW, the Shields have no defense against physical projectiles."

This is not true. In canon alone a Star Destroyer was capable of no-selling a 2 kiloto impact with a meteor without issue. In addition, turbolasers are described as "multi-megaton bombs", with calcs putting light turbolasers at 179 megatons with heavy turbolasers being in the outright gigaton range.

"unless we went by EU feats (which this is not the EU Emperor nor anywhere near his peak)"

As said in OP, this is Legends/EU.

"Buu's AoE would wreak havoc, but Buu has no resistence to mindhax, and would be put down by a combined Strip Soul of thousands upon thousands of psykers."

This is, presuming of course, they can see or react to him in the first place.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I highly doubt either sides' ground or interstellar forces are going to be the ones dealing with Buu.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

If The Emperor and Primarchs can fight on this, and I assume they are since Xcano mentioned then, then I believe they would destroy the major forces of the Galactic Empire by themselves. All if would really take is the creation of a Warp Storm within the GE's main planet, swallowing it, alongside the Empire's leadership. Really, Warp Storms all over the major lines of defenses, political and strategical points of the Galactic Empire. Even without the Emperor and only PRimarchs, they could also do it. It's not about how many planets, it's about being strategic.

Also, if the two universes have literally intersected, then that also means that The Warp is a thing, and the Galactic Empire's major Hyperspace-Travel technology would be destroyed or ******, as space in the 40K Galaxy is far more erratic and chaotic than anything in Star Wars. Star Wars would have to adapt fast.

The Galactic Empire would have to deal with Daemons, Orks, Tyranids, Chaos posessions, and all manner of things which they have no experience dealing with, and no defenses against in th cases of Chaos Daemons. The Imperium has been dealing and surviving these for thousands of years. And seeing as this is a Composite that is 40K Tech + Emperor and Primarchs.

We also have to account for Imperial Saints, who are incredibly more powerful than the vast majority of Jedi, the Culexeus Assassins who would **** over all of the Galactic Empire's Jedi mind powers.

And we should also mention Ephrael Stern, who has free-reigns to fly and teleport across the Webway, and if given enough information, could use the Webway to teleport to key locations of The GE and take down key players.

As for Buu, any Primarch could make quick work through Mind + Soul Hax.