The Kirby Outlier

[ArbitraryNumbers]

So one thing really bothers me...

-Giorno Giovanna is suddenly brought up to universe level after one fight where he nullified a universal timestop. That's fine.

-Mario goes from "galaxy level" to multiverse level by defeating Dimentio. That's fine. (Also, Mario is 2-A at best while Megaman.EXE is around that level, even though he's only universe level)

-Frisk surviving and taking hits from Asriel Dremurr's "Infinite power", despite being torn apart by Omega Flowey and revived several times over. That's fine.

-The entire Touhouverse is powerscaled from Cirno (essentially the Dan Hibiki of Touhou), who is said to be mountain level because she beat an opponent of that level in an over the top game of laser tag (AKA Spell Cards). That is also fine. (Also, on Aya's profile, she's stated to be FTL+ with no explanation.)

But Kirby going from multi-solar system level to universe level by defeating Magalor? That's an outlier because Magalor is too OP.

Am I missing something? It could just be my inner fanboy speaking, but I think Kirby should be upgraded a bit.

 

[The_Everlasting]

The difference is that all the characters got some form of boost (GioGio getting GER, Mario the Pure Hearts, and Frisk having more Determination, not sure what your point is with Cirno), whereas Kirby got nothing.

 

[Cropfist]

But Kirby's also beaten Master Hand (Who is universe level)

 

[The_Everlasting]

That was just a reference, and nothing implies that's the same Master Hand from Smash Bros.

 

[Cropfist]

But he still beat him, and there's nothing to imply it isn't.

Also forgot to mention he duels Meta knight all the time, who's sword is said to have the power to control the universe.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

But shouldn't Super Abilities get the 3-B, possibly 3-A ranking?

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Crop

And there's nothing to imply it is.

From what? That could easily be hyperbole.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

But shouldn't Super Abilities get the 3-B, possibly 3-A ranking?

Sorry for quoting myself, but I mean, it's kind of like a new form enough to warrant a higher ranking other than that Unknown it has now.

 

[Cropfist]

@Everlasting

There's no direct evidence that says it's not the Master Hand.

It was in the anime (Says somthing about it here.) He had no reason to lie.

 

[The_Everlasting]

The anime is not canon, and we do not consider it in the profiles.

 

[Cropfist]

Then why is Samus' small star level feat used (when it came from a manga)?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Kirby anime =/= Metroid manga

Simple as that.

 

[Cropfist]

My point was that the Metroid manga is non-canon and is still used.

 

[The_Everlasting]

What makes it non-canon?

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

The Kirby case is similar to sonics case beating universals while getting curbstomped by ants in comparison to them although did Kirby get a power up before fighting magolor ?

 

[The_Everlasting]

He had the Ultra Sword to break Magolor EX's barrier, but was back to normal during the fight with Magolor Soul.

 

[Cropfist]

What makes it non-canon?

The fact that it's a manga and was never confirmed canon.

And what makes RBAY non-canon?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Never confirmed to be canon is not the same as being non-canon.

RBAY?

 

[Cropfist]

What confirmation is there that the manga is canon and the anime is not?

Right Back at Ya!

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

He had the Ultra Sword to break Magolor EX's barrier, but was back to normal during the fight with Magolor Soul.

He was normal because Magolor knocked it out of him. Super Abilites wouldn't be PIS, just the post battle.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I meant this doesn't affect Kirby's natural level since he fully defeated Magolor without the use of a power-up.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I understand that. I just wanted to get rid of that Unknown aspect of super abilites (it affected a debate I was having in a way against me), as it's clearly Mag's level.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

After looking through some profiles I can easily say that I got quite a bit wrong, especially about the thing with Cirno, I don't even know where I was going with that. Pretty blind of me. My apologies.