The hunter vs a kid from Oregon

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Dipper

The hunter

Rules

Speed equalized

No knowledge of each other

First keys for both

Battle takes place in gravity falls forest

Hunter has his rifle and is bloodlusted

Dipper is bloodlusted too

Starting distance 20ft and out of sight

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Dipper has the experience advantage due to having dealt with supernatural conflicts and science-fiction gadgets, whereas the Hunter is skilled at fighting more realistic creatures using realistic weapons. I'm not sure if Dipper's weapons are suppose to be standard equipment or optional equipment, and their range is considered as "higher" than Standard Melee Range, which is vague, whereas the Hunter's weapons have more clear long range listed on his profile. I feel like the Hunter would be skilled at navigating in a forest, but the characters are set as bloodlusted and Dipper has stealth skill on top of being more familiar with the location, so I imagine Dipper would be the most likely of the combatants to surprise the other. Dipper's durability is ranked as 25.796 kilograms of TNT, whereas the Hunter's firearms are ranked as 8.530 kilograms of TNT, so the Hunter's firearms wouldn't one-shot, and Dipper's Class 10 lifting strength would allow him to disarm the Hunter without issue if Dipper would get close enough.

My conclusion is that I think Dipper has enough of the right advantages for him to win the battle, so I vote for him winning.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Dipper has the experience advantage due to having dealt with supernatural conflicts and science-fiction gadgets, whereas the Hunter is skilled at fighting more realistic creatures using realistic weapons. I'm not sure if Dipper's weapons are suppose to be standard equipment or optional equipment, and their range is considered as "higher" than Standard Melee Range, which is vague, whereas the Hunter's weapons have more clear long range listed on his profile. I feel like the Hunter would be skilled at navigating in a forest, but the characters are set as bloodlusted and Dipper has stealth skill on top of being more familiar with the location, so I imagine Dipper would be the most likely of the combatants to surprise the other. Dipper's durability is ranked as 25.796 kilograms of TNT, whereas the Hunter's firearms are ranked as 8.530 kilograms of TNT, so the Hunter's firearms wouldn't one-shot, and Dipper's Class 10 lifting strength would allow him to disarm the Hunter without issue if Dipper would get close enough.

My conclusion is that I think Dipper has enough of the right advantages for him to win the battle, so I vote for him winning.

You mean 35 megajoules

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

You mean 35 megajoules

About Dipper's durability? I don't know. I converted the value from tons to kilograms because the Hunter's firearms are measured in kilograms of TNT.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

About Dipper's durability? I don't know. I converted the value from tons to kilograms because the Hunter's firearms are measured in kilograms of TNT.

They upscale from the celophysis

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

They upscale from the celophysis

Are you referring to the "35691651.533132 J" in the "Coelophysis destroys a bridge (Carnivores)" calculation? That "J" means joules, not megajoules.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Are you referring to the "35691651.533132 J" in the "Coelophysis destroys a bridge (Carnivores)" calculation? That "J" means joules, not megajoules.

Yes but I said 35 because convert to megajoules

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Anyway he has 7 shots with the rifle and 8 shots with the pistol how many does dipper take before he dies

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Anyway he has 7 shots with the rifle and 8 shots with the pistol how many does dipper take before he dies

Dipper's durability is 3.024× greater than the Hunter's firearms' strength. In versus threads with humanoid characters, a strength gap of 8× is considered as enough for a one-shot to occur. I suppose this means Dipper can survive two shots.

 

[King_Dom470]

Dipper's durability is 3.024× greater than the Hunter's firearms' strength. In versus threads with humanoid characters, a strength gap of 8× is considered as enough for a one-shot to occur. I suppose this means Dipper can survive two shots.

Doesn't piercing damage also change some stuff up? Also I doubt that's actually how gaps work otherwise even in a best case where their AP is exactly the same they could only take 8 hits from each other

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Doesn't piercing damage also change some stuff up?

Ooh, it does, and I forgot to factor it. Good catch.

Also I doubt that's actually how gaps work otherwise even in a best case where their AP is exactly the same they could only take 8 hits from each other

Are you sure? Any positive whole number multiplied by 1 equals 1, so 1× would be neither a gap nor an advantage. It's very believable for me to make a mistake in math though, so if there is a better reason why I'm wrong, please tell me.

 

[AThe1412]

Doesn't piercing damage also change some stuff up? Also I doubt that's actually how gaps work otherwise even in a best case where their AP is exactly the same they could only take 8 hits from each other

Yup, that's not how it works. Durability mainly determines how difficult it is for an opponent to harm you physically with an 8x AP difference being easy enough to effectively oneshot. It's stamina that determines how much damage you can take.

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Yup, that's not how it works. Durability mainly determines how difficult it is for an opponent to harm you physically with an 8x AP difference being easy enough to effectively oneshot. It's stamina that determines how much damage you can take.

That makes sense. In that case, Dipper could take more than two hits. He has enough stamina, and his is even better than the Hunter's. The Hunter's justification merely being "can run and fight for long periods" doesn't measure up against Dipper's feats.

 

[AThe1412]

Dipper FRA. He wins even without weapons.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Dipper fra

 

[King_Dom470]

Dipper FRA