The Everyman vs. Monika

[Jinsye]

Ovens suggested me to make this match yesterday so

Speed is =

Low 2-C Monika

Who wins?

The Everyma: 0

Monika: 0

 

[Modernmyrmidon]

Following

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Is her plot manip passive? Otherwise Everyman can just BFR her to a universe where she wins and she will be none the wiser.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Incon

Both hax at the same time

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Nice choice of art for Monika btw

 

[Modernmyrmidon]

Incon

Both hax at the same time

Inconclusive FRA

 

[Jinsye]

speedbump

 

[Jinsye]

bump

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Inconclusive for the reasons above.

 

[Jinsye]

speedbump

 

[Jinsye]

bump

 

[Jinsye]

bump

 

[Ben_CleverName]

Is her plot manip passive? Otherwise Everyman can just BFR her to a universe where she wins and she will be none the wiser.

Act 2 of DDLC has the game basically reset itself and try to compensate for the loss of a certain character by progressing the story without her. Monika was very much aware of what was going on and even laughed about the fact that nobody else did. She also does this to you when you try to reload certain types of saves. I don't think taking her to an alternate universe would be enough to fool her. As for whether or not her plot manipulation is passive, I don't think it is(?) Someone else will have to confirm. It works through changing the game's code.

 

[Jinsye]

That's because she has her classic 4th wall awareness and stuff

I don't think that'll make her aware of the alt. reality and even then, would she even want to leave?

 

[Ben_CleverName]

That's because she has her classic 4th wall awareness and stuff
I don't think that'll make her aware of the alt. reality and even then, would she even want to leave?

The saves are what give her the Low 2-C rating to begin with. They count as alternate universes. And yes, I'm sure she would, given it's not actually the same person.

 

[Jinsye]

Yeah but, you're suddenly stuck into a new universe that isn't a save file. idk how 4th wall awareness helps here.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

Yeah but, you're suddenly stuck into a new universe that isn't a save file. idk how 4th wall awareness helps here.

Aren't we supposed to treat this as a neutral setting? If so, then new universes should count as save files, otherwise none of her abilities would mean anything at all since the whole point of her character is to be a game character that messes with the game she's in (while trying to escape from it). Also, considering she was able to identify and recognize the player in the game's reset as being the same player from before the game's reset, and since the player isn't even from or affected by her 'game', I think it's safe to say that she'd know if she wasn't in the right universe.