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Cebolinha is in his God Cebolinha key
Rick is in his Devil Rick key
Speed is equal
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The devil fight the divinity
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Cebolinha is in his God Cebolinha key
Rick is in his Devil Rick key
Speed is equal
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Cebolinha:
Rick Sanches:
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Accelerated_Evolution
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Low 2-C VS 2-A
Truly one of the matchups of all time
Truly one of the matchups of all time
Dragonite007
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They are, just not on a traditional way
Anyway, Rick could probably win against Cebolinha with his Standard + Optional Equipment, otherwise i don´t think so
Dragonite007
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What equipment could make the match fair?
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Cebolinha's Precognition would make him able to see that Rick would trick him, making him be able to act accordingly to not be tricked
btw is Rick's Plot manip resistance 4D?
ShionAH
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Actually, Rick's tricks are uh... hard to see. Galactic Federation was literally reading his thoughts, memories and his ideas yet he was able trick them. Its uhh pretty broken.
I'd guess so because Self-Referential Six affect the entire cosmology, its maybe even 5D actually.
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Cebolinha in this key, is like extremely arrogant and see everyone as insects, this plus Rick looking like TDM devil (I person that cebolinha know)
I doubt Cevolinha will even be willing to listen to him
ShionAH
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He doesn't need to be willing, Rick is just... so much smarter. I mean the guy casually tricks and outsmarts Nigh to Omniscience gods like its nothing, does Cebolinha even have any feats of intelligence that don't backfire or about manipulating others?
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yeah i am sure.........he would still be able to see that Rick would trick him, thus not being tr
huh, well, he still doesn't resist fate manipulation, Cebolinha can just alter the title to force himself to win, or the reality warping if the writters notice that they can't plot manip Rick
the cosmology blog has no 5D stuff
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I mean to manipulate someone he has to talk with the other part, what is a problem If Cebolinha just instantly try to attack Rick
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Yeah... nope. I told you, Galactic Federation KNEW Rick's plan they knew his ideas his thoughts EVERYTHING. Yet! Rick somehow tricked them, how? Who knows!
I mean the OP didnt clarify what Rick has, if he has the fortune Cookies or his Time Manipulator he can easily get past Fate Manipulation. Altering titles and stuff wont work since Rick can completely defy the Narrative even without his gear
Rick and Morty: 5D Rick?
Nah I’m kidding, kinda. This is just a cosmology upgrade It’s stated that this crystal can be used to see infinitely into spacial dimensions (plural) we cannot see. Which afaik, an infinite spacial dimension is considered enough for qualitative/quantitative superiority whatever term you wanna...
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His presence in the school became so influential that Mr. Goldenfold (extremely strict teacher) would dismiss the class and grant everyone a day off just due to his presence
Rick is stupidly charismatic when he wants to be
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That's what I'm saying, Rick can manipulate, but unless is like someone like Hinata Tachibana, Cebolinha will just instantly try to destroy Rick with his attacks
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show me a clip where it says they knew his plan? if they did they wouldn't be surprised with him doing it
also........i don't think this is comparable to literally knowing you will be tricked? like, knowing what he wants to do =/= knowing what he will do
plus he would also need to trick all the other Cebolinhas that exist in all other panels........which i don't think he has anyway to know about?
Also with the Writters altering reality to make Cebolinha win, by refusing to draw his stuff and whatnot, making them not exist
outside of me not knowing if he would even have access to those, that is the point, he won't be able to use them, as he needs to activate them/use them, and the Fate manip would make Cebolinha win
plus Cebolinha can also just easily bring those things to Life as monsters to attack and stop Rick from being able to use them, including the Anti-Metal field
that is Plot manip, altering the title is Fate manip on Cebolinha's profile, so not the same thing
huh, ok......the thread also says that no one scales to it, so idt it matters muchRick and Morty: 5D Rick?
Nah I’m kidding, kinda. This is just a cosmology upgrade It’s stated that this crystal can be used to see infinitely into spacial dimensions (plural) we cannot see. Which afaik, an infinite spacial dimension is considered enough for qualitative/quantitative superiority whatever term you wanna...vsbattles.com
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You misunderstand, they didnt know Ricks plan even though they should have because they are reading all his thoughts and ideas the entire time. Its literally stupidly broken, can I see where Cebolinha ever uses his Precognition in battle
Not a problem, Rick literally tricked a Supercomputer that was so complex it was bigger than the planets.
Rick knows he is fictional and can see beyond his shows scope, like entering his title screen and etc.
Rick resists Plot Manipulation
His fate manipulation is under his Plot manipulation which Rick resists
How does that work?
- Passive Plot Manipulation & Reality Warping (Can altered the story with a pencil, Monica and her gang are stated to be invincible because they are protected by the writers,[33] changed the title of the story,[34] Cebolinha refusing to complet things made reality become more and more basic,[35] can end the story by writing "end" in a paper[36])
Dude... you asked me why the cosmology is 5D. Not if anyone scales to it??
@Dragonite007 What does Rick have? What does Cebolinha start with btw.
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Cebolinha in this key spam transmutation and fire attacks
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ok, so Rick can resist having certain aspects of his mind be read....cool
.......why does size here matters? he wouldn't even know they are there, you can't "trick" that which you are not even aware exists
......so? has he shown the capability to just......look at the other panels? more over, would he even think of doing so at first?
but not reality warping, if the writters refuse to draw his equipment, said equipment will simply cease to be
i mean......ig? still a different hax tho
i should ask the OP if they have their optional equipment for this fight now that i am thinking about it
Laser beams, and by looking with his aura
still a different power
oh pardon me, i thought it was clear i was asking for the purpose of this thread since you brought it up as being "maybe 5D"
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Transmutation is a big problem, but looking at the scans he never really used it against humans (?) fire attacks are not a problem
Not whats happening here, he simply can outplan people who know what he was planning. A stupidly overpowered intelligence feat similar to Doctor and Shiro
He can see out of his "previous on spiral" and knows the existence of "meta reality" while also showing he can get out of his show to the intro screen. This isnt an ability, he is just that smart that he "knows" he is fictional and the ways to exit the cartoon
All of these feats are done by plot manipulation, they aren't controlling fate or reality. They are controlling the plot to achieve these abilities.
With Equipment: Rick could stop time, erase Cebolinhas Memories, seal him, mind/empathic hax him, erase him and more with his technology.
Does Rick have Space-Cruiser here? It could traumatize Cebolinha with his darkest problems, body puppetry him and more.
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He does, he was mad spamming against everything and everyone
Yeah.....but can he outplan people who literally knows that they will be outplanned? That is a key difference
also just because he can doesn't means he will automatically
Nope, Reality warping happens because they are literally the one's drawing reality as is, it isn't made with plot manip, it is literally textbook reality warping, same for Fate Manip if you see his resistance tabber, his resistance to that is separated from his Plot resistance it is under simply because he does them in a similar NOT because they are the same thing, else it would be in the same line
See his optional equipment tabber for the magic pencil, that is the thing the writters use inverse, which includes concept manip, so it would 100% work on rick
They don't need to plot manip him, they can just alter Fate itself or the concept of him to deal with him
Depending on If the optional equipment is allowed or not, Cebolinha can deal with some of those
Writters can also Causality manip to invert the actions of Rick using those
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ShionAH
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Wtf is that argument?
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........am i wrong?Wtf is that argument?
ShionAH
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ye because its not even argument
I am busy rn so later I'll respond, yknow I have a life outside of this right lol
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ShionAH
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Its the same as me saying since Ricks writers are different they wont help Cebo, which is baseless
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Accelerated_Evolution
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Cebolinha never really used his base key powers on an offensive way, so i don´t really understand the Precognition argument
On a side note, give Rick at least his Anti-Meta field, otherwise he will instantly lose to Cebolinha's Passive Plot Hax
On a side note, give Rick at least his Anti-Meta field, otherwise he will instantly lose to Cebolinha's Passive Plot Hax
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Great! So Rick will outsmart/manipulate him
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Unless Cebolinha freaking kills Rick before this happens due to the massive AP gap
ShionAH
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I mean to kill Rick he has to destroy the entire multiverse, which he wont start with I'd assume
Rick also can easily dodge Cebolinhas attacks since he is more skilled, can fly and slide
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Oh yeah, Project Phoenix
Well, then i don´t know how to argue for him, maybe he can gain prior knowledge on Project Phoenix and the Magic Pencil?
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I mean, with the magic Pencil he can litelly just delete everything or summon any character
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He still needs time to "drawn" with the Magic Pencil in order to effectively use it
How Rick counters Cebolinha's Passive Plot Hax without the Anti-Meta Field?
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He doesnt lol
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wasn’t that because Rick tricked them into thinking he had a different plan?
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Yes! Even thought they could literally see all his thoughts ideas and even memories, they literally had computers out there studying this mans brain and seeing everything yet he tricked them!
I just calculated how many layers of planning Rick can do and its around 5000
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Ye but he was mainly just making them see what he wanted them to see. It’s less manipulation and moreso he just did what Batman did to MMH by cloaking his mind with different thoughts
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I mean yeah outsmarting a super machine that is analysing your brain and reading your thoughts as an entire computer and several people are looking through your ideas is still impressive.
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