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I read it all and it looked pretty good so I agreed.INTRODUCTION
The Dark Tower has been discussed on this wiki for a long time, but finally it's definitely time to get High 1-A with this new system. Together with more than one layer. The owner of the scale : Artemis Maerlyn (Auren The Absolute). Those who help at scale : Utku Bayron
Universes
In the first book, Roland uses the term infinite to refer to the vastness of universes. Later, he makes a metaphor about the Mohaine desert. According to this metaphor, the trillions of grains of sand in the Mohaine desert represent the number of universes in the Dark Tower. Within each of these trillions of universes - within each grain of sand - there are infinitely many universes. In short, a single grain of sand = infinite universes.Universes In the first book, Roland uses the term infinite to refer to the vastness of universes. Later, he makes a metaphor about the Mohaine desert. According to this metaphor, the trillions of grains of sand in the Mohaine desert represent the number of universes in the Dark Tower. Within each of these trillions of universes - within each grain of sand - there are infinitely many universes. In short, a single grain of sand = infinite universes.
It has become clear that there is an infinite multiverse within a single universe. But Roland stated a page ago that the universe they were in was just an atom in a blade of grass. He also compared the loss of the green color of this leaf when it is cut with a scythe to the decay of the universe. In short, this analogy means that a single leaf is the life essence of the universe. The blade of grass I'm talking about here contains universes that contain multiple universes within themselves, like an atom. According to Roland's explanation, this leaf of grass metaphor is not limited to a single leaf. In his lyrics, he refers to the infinity of eternity by burning a branch and states that the leaves go on forev. In the sentence, he uses the term “existence” instead of directly saying “leaf”. He says that burning these leaves is a never-ending process that can never be completed, just like a chain. In short, trillions of universes containing infinite universes are encompassed by the leaves and the leaves go on forever. In the Prisoner comic, Blazar says that the universe is made up of many overlapping small structures. Unlike ordinary universes, the Dark Tower universes contain infinite alternate realities. These realities have a different value for each person, for example, Jack sensed the existence of other worlds in the Talisman book when he felt that he was in more than one place at the same time. At that point he was able to discover that there were different variants of himself as a dragon or different species. This means that the Black Tower is a common reality that exists in different incarnations in different forms in different worlds. In addition, in the book 22/11/63 it is said that each child, each breath creates a new “wave”. In the book, the term wave means the universe. The Buddha proves that modal realism exists in the Black Tower. After that, there are infinite possibilities... In Stephen King's “Insomnia” there is a small passage about the upper layers of these universe clusters. According to the book, the layers below Ralph appear with an unrealistic metaphor. The third person narrator uses the metaphor of “mirage” against them. It is also declared that the upper layers/universes are inaccessible to the lower layers. and that there are inconceivably huge levels. In the Talisman book it is made even clearer that there is an r>f between them all.
The Dark Tower
The Dark Tower is the physical form of Gan that holds the entire multiverse together. The tower provides a source of power to the six Beams members inside and establishes a superiority over the entire multiverse. While it is described as a structure outside of time/reality in the center of the Mid-World, it is a timeless structure that provides the time flow of the multiverse. When Roland talks about the Tower, he says that it is the key point of time and dimensions, holding all existence together. Basically everything that exists in the universe - I'm speaking for a certain segment - is surrounded by the Tower. So if the Tower were to be destroyed, everything that depends on it would either be destroyed or the balance of existence would be thrown out of balance and the leaves would wither one by one and the whole universe would collapse in on itself. So the Tower is the fulcrum of the entire universe and it completely encompasses everything that lies beneath it. This is what Roland means when he says, “Dimension encompasses life and the Tower encompasses dimension.” At the same time, in the comic Sheemie's Tale #2, it is declared that the Tower, which appears finite from the outside, actually rises forever. I said that the Dark Tower has staircases that go on forever. The Tower technically has infinite floors. In Dark Tower I - The Gunslinger, Walter says that the Tower has a staircase that leads to divinity. This description of the staircase was introduced by Walter in the last quarter of the first novel. Again in the last quarter of the first book, Walter says to Roland, “Can there be a room somewhere above infinite reality, above everything?” while talking about the Tower. The important part here is that Walter is talking about the Tower containing infinite realities. These realities are universes dominated by the modal realism I mentioned earlier. Here the Tower is a nexus for all chains of possibility.
Finally, Walter uses the term “somewhere above it all” to mean that the room in question is somewhere beyond the infinite staircase. Basically, because this room is inside the Tower, it allows the Tower to be on an equivalent level. Therefore the Tower will enter on the same level as the room and will be the life essence of everything as a structure beyond the infinite chain of possibilities, as I mentioned earlier.
KA (Destiny)
There is a term called “Ka” in the series. Ka is the fate of a person, the life essence of living beings and the balance of the universe. Ka is also a term that encompasses not only humans or other living beings, but also the Dark Tower, and the Dark Tower is a structure that represents Ka. If a person dies, their Ka is thrown into the Todash Darkness, where everything is a null darkness, a realm beyond even the Black Tower, as I will discuss in a moment. Only Gan and Bessa can control Ka, and controlling Ka will give Gan and Bessa a high degree of Law/Law and Fate/Destiny manipulation. In this case, Ka should have an equivalent reach between the two realms, as it encompasses even the Dark Tower and has access to the Todash Darkness, which lies far beyond the Tower.
Crimson King
It is widely believed that the Crimson King is the second most powerful being in the Dark Tower universe. First of all, if I were to position the Crimson King, this would definitely be his ultimate goal. Throughout the series, he has tried to destroy the Dark Tower, which is Gan's physical form, because he and his family were living in the Prim lands before Gan created creation, and when the Tower appeared, he and his family were out of creation. So all the talk about him being superior to beings like Pennywise is all ambiguous. Presumably, according to the tier system, whichever tier the Dark Tower scales to, the Red King will be affected by it in the same way. Another proof that he is weaker than Pennywise is that in the Dark Tower - End-World Almanac, it is said that he is unable to defeat the Tower guards who are independent of Ka.
Guardians-Demons
The Beams are the power that sustains the Dark Tower. While this power is unleashed in the center of the Tower's summit, they are surrounded by 12 Beam Guardians. As the name suggests, they are the Guardians of the Beams. There are 2 Guardians for each of the 6 available Beams. Their names are: Elephant, Rat, Bat, Eagle, Dog, Dog, Turtle (Maturin), Wolf, Fish, Rabbit, Lion, Horse and Bear. That the Guardians are beyond the aforementioned Ka is stated in the comic book End-World Alamac: “The Guardians exist beyond the reach of the Ka”. Although Ka is a term that technically encompasses even the Black Tower, the Guardians remain unreachable for them, so it would not be wrong to say that the Guardians transcend Ka and indirectly the Tower. But it is important to note that I just said that Ka falls into the Todash Darkness. This does not make the guards equivalent to the Todash Darkness (except Maturin), because Ka reaches Todash only when a person dies, like garbage thrown there, and there is no evidence that Ka encompasses the Todash Darkness as well as the Tower. With the exception of Maturin, all the guards are beyond the Tower and behind the Todash Darkness. In addition, there are the Demon Elementals, a force that is the opposite of the Guardians. The number of these beings is 6, but there are a total of 12 Demon Elemental selves, as each of them has a dual self.
The Prim
There is a unique power in the universe called Prim, and the reason why I call it unique is that Prim is like a magical sea from which Gan created everything. All worlds and universes emerged from Prim. There's even a passage in the comic book that goes like this: “The first to emerge from the depths of Prim was Gan, the spirit of darkness.” The term “spirit of darkness” comes from the fact that Gan is the animating essence of the entire Dark Tower. In short, while Prim is likened to a single magical cauldron from which all existence emerges, Gan also rises from Prim, and on the same page the following text appears: “As Gan stretched himself higher and higher, the waters of Prim flowed out of its belly. As the Tower grew taller, Middle-earth split into several parallel worlds.” This again confirms that the Tower is an unfathomably large and endlessly extending structure that came into being thanks to Prim. At the same time, Prim, before Gan created the Tower and the multiverses that revolve around it, was an enormous sea of immense mass, but with the creation of the Tower, like a sponge landing on a wet floor, it drained away its water and as a result became dwarfed compared to its former size.
Todash Darkness
We have come to an important point. I need to point out that:
Todash Darkness=Macro-Verse
These two terms are exactly the same thing. While the Prim I am talking about is the main reason for the emergence of all creation, the Darkness/Emptiness of Todash, compared to the Prim, the Prim remains only a drop compared to its infinity. Even on another page, "There is a void of Todash Darkness that extends to infinity beyond Prim. there is a text that says ", which Deceptively means that the Darkness of Todash is a completely beyond realm in Prim. However, there is no clear evidence that the Darkness/Emptiness of Todash in the Dark Tower universe is the same place as the Macro-Universe. Therefore, although it is difficult to look at the common aspects of the two and explain that they are essentially the same places, I will have to make a small explanation, so I will share the images first, and then I will come to a small conclusion.
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1. Let's start with simple reasons. The first image I posted shows that monsters exist in the Todash Darkness. After that, in the following images, it is stated that Pennywise has a place in the Macro-Verse. The important thing is that Pennywise is a monster, this is the first thing that comes to mind about him being a monster of the Todash Darkness. Of course, although he is a monster, the fact that his location is the Macro-Universe does not mean that Todash and Macro are the same places. Lets continue.
2. Secondly, in the third image I threw, it is said that the Ka of a deceased person falls into the Todash/Probability Gap, which lies “BEYOND ALL PHYSICAL WORLDS”. 4. in the image, Pennywise says, ”THE COSMOLOGY OF THE MACRO-VERSE THAT LIES OUTSIDE THE PUNY EGG OF THIS UNIVERSE," both of which are a void that lies beyond the universe.
3. In the last image I posted, there is a small section titled “MAYBE ONCE, RIGHT AFTER THE PRIM WAS WITHDRAWN AND GAN'S VOICE WAS STILL ECHOING IN THE ROOMS OF THE MACRO-VERSE”. The important part here is this; as we showed at the beginning, it is said that there is a void of Todash Darkness beyond Prim. Gan, on the other hand, is declared to STILL have his voice echoing in the Macro-Verse even after the Prim is withdrawn, which confirms that the Macro-Verse is a void that existed before the Prim was withdrawn, at this point the Todash Darkness is the only thing we know for sure that existed before the Prim was withdrawn, at this point it would not be wrong to say that the Macro-Verse is the same thing as the Todash Darkness.
Pennywise-Maturin
It's time for Pennywise and Maturin. The position of these two entities is generally Macro-Verse, but the situation is a little more complicated, first of all, I must point out that the true form of Pennywise is Deathlights. When Audra Pennywise, Bill Denbrough's wife, is present in Deathlights, her true form, she experiences that Deathlights is something beyond the limits of the Macro-Verse. At the same time, Bill or Beverly (I don't remember exactly) tell Richie that Deathlights is the edge of everything. At the same time, Beverly has described Pennywise's spider form as coming from beyond space and time. Given this, it would not be wrong to say that Pennywise is above the Macro-Verse and Maturin, because it confirms that he is beyond the limit of the Macro-Verse in a situation experienced by Audra personally in Deathlights, and that he is really qualitatively beyond the Macro-Verse. according to the words of the other losers club. (I'm speaking for the True Form) Maturin does not appear in Deathlights, but he is said to be strong enough to eclipse the power of Pennywise (from the Macro-Verse state) by Bill Denbrough. Who has reached the Macro-Verse. At the same time, Gan, so she wouldn't fall to the Dark Tower the tower the time it is created Maturi assumes that the task of getting her back. Maturin saved all creation from extinction while the other Ray wardens protected a single Ray.
Bessa
Next up is Bessa, Gan's wife. Just as the Tower represents Gan, Gan's physical form is Bessa in the roses that surround the Tower. October Decker Decker Roland, in addition to the fact that the Tower holds all creation together, which I mentioned earlier, says that the Tower and the Rose are the basic things that hold creation together within the same system.
Gan
Finally, I need to mention Gan, the creator of the Dark Tower universe. The being who created everything I mentioned above is Gan, the Black Tower is the physical form of Gan, and Gan takes place in a void beyond all cosmic reality, such as the Dark Tower, the Macro/Todash Darkness, Deathlights. In Stephen King's novel “IT”/“It”, it is understood that Pennywise feels fear for the first time in his life. When I first published the book, I thought that what he was afraid of here was the losers' club, but what scared him was that there was a mysterious entity spying on him, this entity was the “Other”, that is, Gan. Bill Denbrough and Pennywise the other has clearly stated that he created everything, including Maturin. In the same section at the same time in the minds of the bodies that are composed of the smallest particles was again declared. When these are taken into consideration, Gan, and all creation is to establish the superiority of qualitative Maturin including Deathlights.
CONCLUSION
One Universe/Capsule: 1-A
Grass Leaves 1-A & 1-A+
The Dark Tower/Spirit of Gan: High 1-A
The Prim Sea of Creation: High 1-A
Macro-Verse/Todash Darkness High 1-A²
The Deathlights' Territory: High 1-A³
Author's/Gan's Gap: High 1-A⁴
Crimson King: Likely High 1-A
Guardians-Demons: High 1-A
Maturin/Macro-Verse Pennywise: High 1-A²
Pennywise (True Form): High 1-A³
Rose of the Tower, Bessa: High 1-A, Possibly High 1-A⁴
Revitalizing Essence Gan: High 1-A⁴
Thanks for the listen me.
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As can be seen from the title, Dark Tower is requested to be subject to High 1-A revision.Can somebody write an explanation post for what currently needs to be evaluated here please?
I need to talk about the backbone of the argument because without these structer no character can get the "High 1-A" scalingCan somebody write an explanation post for what currently needs to be evaluated here please?
And nowOne Universe/Capsule: 1-A
Grass Leaves 1-A & 1-A+
The Dark Tower/Spirit of Gan: High 1-A
The argument given here is related to the infinity of each particle, that is, the infinity of each structure. This alone gives only 2A, but let me continue.
For 2AIn short, a single grain of sand = infinite universes.
Here he talks about the layering of infinite 1A structures, all of which are inaccessible structures with ontological transcendence, and these are, as it is said, "infinite" with a 2A context, and this gives us the 1A+ structureIn Stephen King's “Insomnia” there is a small passage about the upper layers of these universe clusters. According to the book, the layers below Ralph appear with an unrealistic metaphor. The third person narrator uses the metaphor of “mirage” against them. It is also declared that the upper layers/universes are inaccessible to the lower layers. and that there are inconceivably huge levels. In the Talisman book it is made even clearer that there is an r>f between them all.
This statement supports this,now let's move on to summarizing High 1-Abut I still need to explain it to you. there is r>f between every universe. they are compared to mirages. there is an inaccessible and inconceivable difference between them. the term inaccessible is said by a race far, far superior to humans. the blade of grass is the sum of all this hierarchy and it is a hierarchy with infinite r>f. on the site r>f is designated as 1-A and infinite 1-A structures are declared as=1-A+. there are infinite possibilities in the universe and each of these possibilities creates a new universe. the tower connects all these possible worlds at a single point and it is the one that completely surrounds and transcends the 1-A+ hierarchy that I just mentioned.
It transcends everything that is under the room and is in a different finding in a different hierarchy, so it has qualified for the High 1-A tier because it is truly independent and transcendent of a 1A+ system of layering and hierarchy.I said that the Dark Tower has staircases that go on forever. The Tower technically has infinite floors. In Dark Tower I - The Gunslinger, Walter says that the Tower has a staircase that leads to divinity. This description of the staircase was introduced by Walter in the last quarter of the first novel. Again in the last quarter of the first book, Walter says to Roland, “Can there be a room somewhere above infinite reality, above everything?” while talking about the Tower. The important part here is that Walter is talking about the Tower containing infinite realities. These realities are universes dominated by the modal realism I mentioned earlier. Here the Tower is a nexus for all chains of possibility.
Finally, Walter uses the term “somewhere above it all” to mean that the room in question is somewhere beyond the infinite staircase. Basically, because this room is inside the Tower, it allows the Tower to be on an equivalent level. Therefore the Tower will enter on the same level as the room and will be the life essence of everything as a structure beyond the infinite chain of possibilities, as I mentioned earlier.
Can somebody write an explanation post for what currently needs to be evaluated here please?
I need to talk about the backbone of the argument because without these structer no character can get the "High 1-A" scaling
And now
The argument given here is related to the infinity of each particle, that is, the infinity of each structure. This alone gives only 2A, but let me continue.
For 2A
Here he talks about the layering of infinite 1A structures, all of which are inaccessible structures with ontological transcendence, and these are, as it is said, "infinite" with a 2A context, and this gives us the 1A+ structure
This statement supports this,now let's move on to summarizing High 1-A
It transcends everything that is under the room and is in a different finding in a different hierarchy, so it has qualified for the High 1-A tier because it is truly independent and transcendent of a 1A+ system of layering and hierarchy.
Foot note:There may be parts that I did not explain because I am not responsible for these arguments and I do not know exactly, but I can explain this much as far as I have read.
Same.As can be seen from the title, Dark Tower is requested to be subject to High 1-A revision.
Well actually Ultima said she would look into this post. Because he thinks Dark Tower's current profiles are too inappropriate.@Ultima_Reality @DontTalkDT @Executor_N0 @Everything12 @Agnaa @Elizhaa @Qawsedf234 @Planck69 @Ovy7 @Rakih_Elyan @IdiosyncraticLawyer @RatherClueless @GrathOfLux
Are any of you willing to evaluate the preceding two posts in this thread please?
So does that mean you agree with Op?Okay. That is good then.
No. It just means that I think that it is good that @Ultima_Reality plans to help out here.So does that mean you agree with Op?
OkeyNo. It just means that I think that it is good that @Ultima_Reality plans to help out here.