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The bias against Naruto

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@Cal its all about perspective. We rank things higher than EVERYTHING when compared to the OBD because our standards are a lot lower than what they used to be and we up-play. For example We used to treat lightning with the same scrutiny as light, but that has changed to if it looks like lightning it is lightning. Looking at you RWBY.
 
@Repp, while i agree as far as i know, your not biased towards Naruto but saying there's no one on this wiki is false and you know it, i wont name these people as i do not want to make bad blood or conflict between these people, also as much as i would like to show you what i mean, i feel like it would create to much of problem right now and cause even more arguments when whatever i say is likely to not make a difference as there is a revision going on
 
Can we just leave everything except Naruto out of this? Honestly this thread is getting no where if it keeps up with this rythm.

@Rocker if you want upgrades for Naruto verse, provide scans and reasons.
 
@LordAizen

Then make a Content Revision Thread. Not to be rude, but you've been going around on a ton of threads complaining about calcs and wiki standards.

If you have a problem, do what everyone else has to do and make a Content Revision Thread. Badmouthing the calc team and the wiki itself over what you think is low quality work isn't helping anyone.

You're former Staff, act like it.
 
I agree with blank and thats why i suggested a casual thread so we could Discuss these things in a Civil manner
 
We aren't intentionally biased against Naruto.

Gwynbleiddd was going to head a revision, and I waited for him for a long time, but then he left the wiki.

Then Lina Shields was supposed to handle it, but he also left the wiki.

Then Meosos started organising a revision, based on Gwynbleiddd's work and other calculations, but he has also disappeared.

Most recently I have asked Unite My Rice to handle it, possibly with help from Darkanine, but he hasn't had the time to look properly into it yet.

I also have no particular personal opinion about Kaguya.
 
Reppuzan said:
@LordAizen

Then make a Content Revision Thread. Not to be rude, but you've been going around on a ton of threads complaining about calcs and wiki standards.

If you have a problem, do what everyone else has to do and make a Content Revision Thread. Badmouthing the calc team and the wiki itself over what you think is low quality work isn't helping anyone.

You're former Staff, act like it.
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So what if im former staff, Im a normal user, nothing more.

I didn't badmouth anyone or direct any malice at anyone either.

Our standards are lower and we are far more lenient then we used to be.

Do you think we are not?
 
@Ant, ive been suggesting we create a Revision Discussion thread based on Naruto , as it might help sort out some misconceptions and waht not way before we actually implement the Revisions, as besides the calc's there some power wanking powerscaling issues and some stuff storywise that could be a determent to the Revision, it can be just casual
 
Since this thread is heavily derailed, should we close it?
 
@ Blanked I have said it over and over, upgrades not what I am looking for, though this might lead to them,this is simply about calcs and stuff in the past that seem to have been ignored or just thrown away as "outliers" at every opportunity. I would agree about making threads for them, but the rules actively prevent that which is also my issue.

@Antvasima, I guess I can understand that. This has just been throgh my observartions.
 
People find an important upgrade for the Naruto characters = more ignored than Shino. We can understand something what happens, imagine these staff trying for years with the most impertinent and extreme fans of almost any series and especially Naruto and it is almost impossible not to feel a bit of rejection. There is also a lot of content and even though many staff members attend to everything at once it is complicated, so if there is some justification in some things.

However, yes I have noticed that they aren't partial to Naruto to a greater or lesser extent, literally if you create a topic in a forum you must be with the heart in hand so that X administrator doesn't close it without having developed or treated the subject. And if there is not the same treatment for all the verses, that begins to be noticed after joining this community.

And although the theme of time and disposition is understood as it is only a small part of the staff that Naruto knows and is willing to deal with, it is really crazy that since I arrived here (January) they are with the theme that Naruto is in revision and such while not a single advance has been seen in almost a whole year. While they literally upgrade all of Bleach's verse that was in the same situation with a single calculation... that was a religious experience.

I support the creator of this thread in what he postulates, although we must also understand the staff of this site to a certain extent. The same is to wait and see how things are done and if partial treatment is improved towards certain series.
 
@Shadow

I don't think a revision thread would be a bad idea, but I want to hear the other's opinion on it first.
 
I don't mind a revision, but it should ideally be organised by staff members based on Meosos' blog post and Gwynbleiddd's calculations.
 
@Dariel Senju, yeah as a new User who ended up browsing a lot, it is something I noticed. I felt like it had to be pointed out at some point or it will keep going on.
 
@Dariel

To be frank, lifting strength isn't that important of an upgrade.

I don't think any of the Staff are particularly invested in the series besides Unite My Rice, so it's only natural that some threads are going to be glossed over when we're the the midst of finals season right before the holiday break.

As for thread closing, I still have yet to see a user actually bring a thread up. If you're going to accuse us of closing threads prematurely, have some physical evidence to back up your claims.

Accusing us of bias over little things like things isn't helpful criticism in the slightest.
 
In the first thread only one person was discussing things that were already discussed and refused by everyone else.

Second thread was removed and it speaks for itself.
 
Well, we cannot simply wave a magic wand and create a working Naruto revision.

We need interested knowledgeable staff members with sufficient amounts of free time to organise it based on Gwynbleiddd's and Meosos' works.

I have been trying to organise a revision for over 1.5 years now, but it still hasn't been performed.

I am currently hoping that Unite My Rice will be able to handle it after his examination period is done.
 
What a trainwreck of a thread. Topics that have been discussed to death being re-opened, and ex-staff showing no professionalism and bashing other staff and the site, while never making an actual thread to complain about ratings or calcs.
 
@Antvasima yeah, I get that living people do work on it after all. Again this is notjust about upgrades or revisions.
 
could we not just apply the stuff that has already been calced and accepted ?, i mean the only stuff that is left would only scale to the God tiers mostly and the rest can be sorted out via power scaling
 
@Blanked yeah refused in literally the worst way "Well, outliers happen in all of fiction. Maybe not on the level of Marvel comics, but they happen all the time." "Yeah, Star level Naruto is a major outlier and is not really happening. Would be best to close this." I just see that as dismissive sorry.
 
As for threads being shut down, we have a massive backlog of Naruto calculations that need to be incorporated into such an endeavour. We cannot simply start lots of revisions to take place in the meantime, as it would cause too much chaos, and we also do not seem to have almost staff members that are particularly interested in evaluating them after Gwynbleiddd and TheMightyRegulator left.
 
Kaguya's dimensions are simply places she teleports characters to, she can't reality warp them completely, and it would be an outlier if she could.
 
Rocker1189 said:
@Blanked yeah refused in literally the worst way "Well, outliers happen in all of fiction. Maybe not on the level of Marvel comics, but they happen all the time." "Yeah, Star level Naruto is a major outlier and is not really happening. Would be best to close this." I just see that as dismissive sorry.
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Calling a spade a spade is not being dismissive, it's telling the truth.

Large Star level Kaguya is an outlier.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
What a trainwreck of a thread. Topics that have been discussed to death being re-opened, and ex-staff showing no professionalism and bashing other staff and the site, while never making an actual thread to complain about ratings or calcs.
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I dont think you are one to talk about professionalism, seeing as how you were nearly fired from being a staff member over the year for just that.
 
Ironic as it may be, I agree with Matthew that this thread is pure chaos, and should preferably be closed, but I would appreciate if any staff members that are willing to help out with a Naruto revision inform Unite My Rice about their interest.
 
Calling a spade a spade is not being dismissive, it's telling the truth.

Large Star level Kaguya is an outlier.

It's outlier for Mew as well. But we give Pokemon special treatment
 
Why would it be an outlier? Yes she cant warp reality, never argued that but that has nothing to do with being star level even if it is with only one technique. Goku cant warp reality and is at low 2-c. Also I am pretty sure Kakashi said she "rewrote the world and made it new".
 
I was never fired from staff. You are the very reason this, and many other threads derailed completely, and instead of actually bothering to make a thread to express your opinion and views, you just continually act passive aggressive towards everyone.

When I see a problem, or something I don't like: I make a thread, and try to discuss it. I only close threads which are forbidden by the Discussion Rules.

You were also banned for making racist jokes. So please, don't try to put yourself on any moral or professional high-ground. And this last comment of yours is just derailing threads further.
 
Bepo4151 said:
It's outlier for Mew as well. But we give Pokemon special treatment
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>Spin-Off Manga completely detatched from main continuity

>Creating the dimension is Mew's only feat in the manga.

That's not an outlier.
 
@LordAizenSama & Matthew

Please stop fighting with each other in public. If you have a problem with each other politely work it out in private.
 
@The real cal howard

OBD rank last naruto and Toneri Small Planet lvl but here they are only Multi-Continent lvl
 
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