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The bias against Naruto

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I am seriously worried about the way this wiki seems massively biased against Naruto. Like I am pretty new here so I have not posted alot and I have read up some of the rules. I really just see a ton of anti-Naruto bias. People bring up ideas that could possibly upgrade Naruto = thread closed. Like it honestly is ridiculous, people are not allowed to talk about upgrading Naruto because it is literally in the rules of a vs battle thread that contains tons of characters over lots of fiction. But there are rules against one specific work of fiction... Dont even get me started on some of the arguments against the upgrades. As an outsider, I like to believe I have no bias on either side(maybe I do, not really for me to decide). But as an outsider I see a lot of anti-Naruto Bias that makes this wiki appear less credible and more like a joke which I think is sad for such a cool wiki like this, thats all
 
To be honest Kaguya could be star level going by our leniency on such things now but the rule against it was made when we were very harsh with how we rated chars

For reference look at mewtwos page. Complete contradiction.

EDIT: Mews page.
 
edit: nvm but idk I mean TBF she had multiple even though eh?
 
I dont mean a specfic thread, I meant, the rules specific to Naruto and then the thread linked to those rules, honestly the hostility ppl had for anyone that agreed to any calcs that could push their speed up for example was just so unreal to me. It was as if they hated Naruot with a passion. Like, it is cool to not like a series ( who gives a shit) but showing such massive bias just reduces credibility.
 
Especially when I gon on to other threads with stat upgrades and it is almost universally accepted with little to no question.

I will look at the mew page.
 
Look at specifically the large star level key. We dont see the star and it aint even translated. Only via ppl using google translate. All it says is its very bright.

To top it off. Its LARGE star level.
 
You are right, so why is Mew able to have a Large star Key but Kaguya is not? When she clearly, has an actual star in her dimension? Like you brought up the thread that I hated the most. That was were I saw the worst kind of bias. It made no sense to me. These are meant to be ppl that put bias aside and rank things based on feats and what they see and yet there are 2 different instances where they allow one thing an not the other despite the "feats" not even being close to each other. (Note: I have nothing against large star Mew).

Edit: it is especially worse when the mods seem to have some lenience for one verse but not the other.
 
Still highballing just for the sake of highballing. If we are being honest Kaguyas evidence for star level is as good, or even better than mews. I dont think we even see inside this dimension and Creating artificial light wouldn't be a issue for a pokemon like mew who can learn whatever.
 
Sorry, but I thought the argument against 4-C Kaguya was she wasn't actually creating the dimensions, just opening portals between them?
 
Exactly, I would actually like an answer as to why it is not allowed. And if there really is something against it, then I will have to as why mew can be Large star. I dont like it when something is thrown under the rug through some rules that are honestly very balantly against something.
 
This shit again. Honestly she never created/control these dimensions. The fact that she never uses anything in the dimensions to her advantage, and also the fact that she got affected by gravity in one of them which would never happen if she created or controlled them. At best she rules them.
 
And again it was stated that she was going to blow up her dimension. Also again if she really is not Large Star level then a lot of other characters will need to be revised. This is not about Kaguya (main subject was derailed) this is about Naruto as a whole.
 
Rather than bias agaisnt Naruto this seems like bias towards Mew. That said i don't know the actual reasons to why he has that AP so i can't judge.
 
The Mew issues should have a seperate thread. I agree that it is stupid being rated that high with the reasoning linking to an untraslated scan. Lmao. How would most people know what it mean?
 
Blanked said:
Rather than bias agaisnt Naruto this seems like bias towards Mew. That said i don't know the actual reasons to why he has that AP so i can't judge.
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Because creating dimensions containing suns has long since been accepted as a High 4-C feat, given the required size in order to create it. The difference between Star level and Large Star level is only 2.2, so dimensions containing a sun, a planet and space around the two objects should logically be, in total, twice the size of the sun.
 
I see. That sounds like a good reasoning.

From what I know about Kaguya she simple teleports from one place to another so the same reasoning can not be applied for her.
 
@Darkanine it aint even stated that mew created the dimension afaik. And we dont even see inside it afaik either

But yes Im stating the obvious that the HST (Throw FT in here aswell) get alot more heavily scrutinized than certain other franchises.
 
@Darkanine But where can we see the Sun? We have an untranslated manga showing me absolutely nothing about what happened, I can assume that Mew made the dimension but I can tell if the Dimension is even larger than a country, heck a city.

@Blanked If you bothered reading the thread you will know I was not the person who mentioned Mew, heck I did not even know about Mews rating and like I said earlier I had nothing against it.
 
Mew/Mewtwo actually has a feat of warping said dimension. And it is stated that Mew created it
 
@Blanked are literally the kind of people I have a problem with, downplaying the crap out of Naruto and easily agreeing with anything said against it, it is as if you are not bothering to check things out for yourself.
 
Kaltias said:
Mew/Mewtwo actually has a feat of warping said dimension. And it is stated that Mew created it
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Where and where? Nothing is linked to the profile its all in japanese aswell.
 
Exactly, at least bring in evidence. I thought that was what is required.

@Blanked your last comment is what you did.


Edit: Heck people were srsly thinking of putting all pokemon at FTL speeds over game mechanics a couple of days ago, like what the actual ****.
 
But again this thread is being derailed, this is not about Mew either (though I ont mind making it about Mew if it gets my point across).
 
You mean because i said "from what i know about Kaguya she simply teleports..."

Don't see anything bad in that sentence that is clearly underlining that it's my own opinion and that's its limited on my knowledge about her. No where have i said that my opinion is absolute or that I am 100 percent sure that's her limit.

I have not downplayed anything and i agree with what i believe has more sense. That said i barely ever discuss when it comes to Naruto in particular Kaguya.

If your best argument is accusing people of downplaying than don't think you will get good results.

Peace, I am out.
 
@LordAizenSama no problem, you are pretty much right too. I think that it goes beyond bias against Naruto really and bias to other series/franchises.
 
I mean.

If she's stated to create dimensions, and said dimensions hold stars. I see no issue in giving them High 4C.

Why wasn't it accepted? Genuinely curious.
 
Never stated to create them IIRC.

She can't even control them. The thing you were talking about where she trapped Naruto she had to merge with the nature to do it. Clearly something not required if you control it.
 
@Gargoyle One I really dont know, all the said in the old thread I read was she was going to destroy a dimension that did not have stars in it. And, the fact that she created the Dimensions was some how contradictory in lore? I mean it does not matter if the author contradicts himself, what the author says about a characters power a long as it is not an outlier should be correct.
 
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