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"Throughout Celestial fondation and Ultimate ensemble, I Alone Am The Wanked One"
- Yogiri Takatou
- Yogiri Takatou
Back to back to back, lets debunk Yogiri and Instant Death AGAIN. We're gonna talk about Yogiri's layers. (I tried to create some kind of peace between us and the commu instant death, but they decided to keep insulting us, not coming to the threads, and even decided to report us for “downgrade spam” (we're simply exposing the wank of pages that have stayed up way too long due to THEIR dishonesty(Threads that have all been accepted]) as I said before I have no hatred against you. Peace.
First, here is the definition of a layered hax :
Yogiri is supposed to have 10 layers of resistance to death manipulation.
1st scan: There is 1 layer of death manipulation here because it can kill people immune to this hax (It is not Said resistance but immunity.)
2nd scan:
Just the same layer, Yogiri just killed someone. If someone could bring more context to that, I suppose it's Masaki, but it's not said in the provided scan that he has a layered death manip resistance.
3rd and 4th scans: Not a layer? I mean, can we count that as a layer? It's an immortality type 5 negation; it does not follow the layered hax definition. It is not related to the power of the hax itself but to the fact he can kill people with no concept of death.
5th scan: Rank between abilities, OK.
6th scan: Yogiri has no rank from what I understand, so he should be above all ranks, I guess.
7th scan: The highest level is 10, so Yogiri gets 10 layers, I see.
The problem I see is with the 5th scan. In fact, the justification doesn't give a layer between the levels, in my opinion.
The example here is so bad; the difference between camouflage of two different levels is about potency, not layers. For example:
Character A has a camouflage hax.
Character B has a hax or ability to see through character A's camouflage.
Character C has a camouflage hax that character B cannot detect.
Does that mean Character C possesses a layered camouflage? No, it's just about power, its camouflage is simply better so that character B cannot detect it. But according to the definition I gave above, this does not qualify as a layer but just a higher degree (like a fire manipulation that burns better because it's at a higher temperature, this is not a layer).
So, in fact, this rank system is just about higher power and not layered hax.
And there's plenty of back-up in the verse. First, instant death is said multiple times to work only against weaker opponents and not stronger, so the hax can be resisted just by power. (I know Yogiri's instant death is not like that, don't jump me please). And instant death is a common thing in the verse.
Even UEG's page confirms that the instant death system works on being stronger, so Yogiri can't scale on 10 layers by 10 levels because we have no idea if the characters he kills can resist death manipulation thanks to resistance or just because they're stronger than the person in front of them.
So with the provided scans, it is just 1 layer.
Edit : (In fact, Instant death resistance was removed to all characters in this thread, so Yogiri's Layers should also be remove.)
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