Terminator T-800 and T-850 AP and durability upgrade

[Colonel_Krukov]

Any reason why we currently don't use this calc for the Terminator's profile?

I also made a calc a long ass time ago for the AP of Plasma weapons that should scale to the durability of the same models too.

• T-600 gets AP and Durability upgraded to 394,570.7071 Joules
• T-800 and T-850 physical AP gets upgraded to 4,110,740.36 Joules
• T-800 and T-850 gets upgraded to 0.004138Tons (Wall level+) with plasma rifles and durability
• T-1000, T-X, T-3000, and Rev-9 all scale to the Wall level+ calc in physical AP and Durability

Update:

Looks like the calc for ripping apart the inferior model can't be used to justify AP, however it was recalculated by Armorchompy as a LS feat which yields Class K results. This would apply to the T-800 and any superior models.

• Agree: Qawsedf234, Elizhaa, DarkDragonMedeus, Theburgerking11, Abstractions
• Neutral:
• Disagree:

 

[Smashtwig]

Definitely following

I don't really see any reason not to use it tbh

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Updated OP

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I agree with this.

 

[Elizhaa]

Changes seem fine.

 

[Mariogoods]

I agree with this.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me, but I recall Antvasima saying he doesn't think Terminator 3D would be considered canon based on the nature of being an attraction at Universal Studios rather than a movie. Though the Terminator wiki considers it a tier 1.1 canon.

 

[Hellbeast]

Yeah it being an attraction seems odd

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah that's the only iffy part I have about it. The T2 feat is from a movie ride attraction and isn't referenced in other works afaik.

Any reason why we currently don't use this calc for the Terminator's profile?

Because it hasn't been accepted yet. Its one of the forgotten and never looked at calcs.

T-1000, T-X, T-3000, and Rev-9 all scale to the Wall level+ calc in physical AP and Durability

I feel weird about this. Since from memory the T-1000, T-X, T-3000 and even the Rev-9 all struggled with actually damaging a T-800/850 without using their weapons or some other object to focus their power.

But since they still damage it should be mentioned for scaling reasonings, but I'm not to sure how to word it.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Because it hasn't been accepted yet. Its one of the forgotten and never looked at calcs.

I think DarkDragonMedeus accepted it, since the low-end has (accepted) in front of it

 

[Qawsedf234]

I think DarkDragonMedeus accepted it, since the low-end has (accepted) in front of it

I thought so to but DDM never specified which end was used, never commented on the second feat and then mentioned other stuff should be calced instead.

The calc also doesn't provide numbers for the other ends of the speeds (which is really weird since I have no idea how tackling speed is somehow higher than a knife throwing speed)

 

[Qawsedf234]

So I've watched all the major fight scenes involving the T-1000, Rev-9, T-3000 and the T-X and what I said before is correct. The T-800/850 tanks all of the attacks from the superior models until they form bladed weapons, use items in the environment or use some other third thing to increase their ability to inflict damage.

So if are to scale they would need a "higher with weapons" rating.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Um, I said that back in 2018 so I do remember what I said until now. The "gas explosion being 9-A" was an honest mistake given that was before I knew gas explosions are much less impressive durability wise than they look.

Plus, I'm not a calc group member, so I can't officially approve calculations. But it's admittedly dubious to consider an attraction feature canon to any of the timelines. Just a heads up, Terminator is a multiverse with multiple timelines.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I'll ask to get the calc looked at in the relevant thread

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I'll ask to get the calc looked at in the relevant thread

Hey DD maybe you can ping the calc members to come here

 

[Smashtwig]

I did not know this would get so much attention

Maybe I should make that Batman vs T1000 match after all

 

[Qawsedf234]

Bump

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I've requested the T-800 ripping a T-600 feat to be checked by a calc mod, if it takes a while longer, I'll politely ask a calc mod on their wall.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Blog has been updated, I'd appreciate a re-evaluation and confirmation where people stand with the feats.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'm still fine with the upgrades.

 

[Elizhaa]

Proposals still look fine.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I would like to see the Class K calc though.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I would like to see the Class K calc though.

Added it to the OP, here's an additional link

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good

 

[RiloKileyFan]

yes agreed

 

[Abstractions]

Looks fine, you're free to apply it.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I will do so soon then.

Thanks for the comments ^^