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Tanjiro vs Yuta

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Catbowtie said:
These are advantages. You literally just conceded that point here.
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How exactly?
Catbowtie said:
Win condition isn’t having a “better AP” if the character doesn’t actually use it. This better AP you’re talking about is actually a negligible 1.2x difference or so.
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We're really gonna act like it wasn't already established that yuta wouldn't always use his instant win or lead with it...

also that 1.2x advantage is being backed up by RPL and a noticeable difference in skill...
Catbowtie said:
Tanjiro can’t flip his way to victory lol.
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ur right but he can do this

Sense and dodge rika
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adapt to rika and yuta using skill, enhanced senses, and IA while growing with RPL
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WIN (before yuta uses domain)
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Catbowtie said:
He needs to abide by the victory conditions set out in SBA, and without a sword, he can only knock out for 1 hour with his fist,
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Once again...

Character version: The strongest canon version of a character is used, that we have listed. The strongest version being defined as the one with the highest tier; if there are multiple versions with the same tier, then the most recent version.

"Strongest cannon version" entails Tanjiro with a sword therefore we use tanjiro with a sword
 
how in the world did this get 6 pages?? everyone agreed it was a stomp on like the 2nd page
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
We're really gonna act like it wasn't already established that yuta wouldn't always use his instant win or lead with it...
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Based off of “maybe.” Literally. It’s a “maybe” scenario he doesn’t instantly win.
Delusionaltx2 said:
also that 1.2x advantage is being backed up by RPL and a noticeable difference in skill...
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Skilled swordsman, not H2H.
Delusionaltx2 said:
ur right but he can do this
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Again. You’re saying he can win, but not telling us how. You’re pointing us towards advantages Tanjiro has and says those in of themselves are win conditions, which they are not.

Yes, Tanjiro has RPL, better skill, and a higher AP. I’m not denying that. I’m saying that those wouldn’t mean they give him a win when Tanjiro himself would not choose to decapitate to win and rather try to knock out to win (straight up wouldn’t work).
Delusionaltx2 said:
Once again...

Character version: The strongest canon version of a character is used, that we have listed. The strongest version being defined as the one with the highest tier; if there are multiple versions with the same tier, then the most recent version.

"Strongest cannon version" entails tanjiro with a sword therefore we use tanjiro with a sword
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Tanjiro in-character doesn’t use a sword to try to decapitate. The BEST you would get is defending himself from Yuta’s strikes, or completely forgoing the sword in favor of punching.
 
Jaynic1 said:
What does tanjiro do about rika grabbing him if he cant see her?
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his enhanced senses literally give him ESP

  • Extrasensory Perception (Able to sense the presence of others and malicious intent, this can be used to differentiate humans and demons, determine how strong someone is to a certain extent or detect an enemy in the vicinity.)
Not only that but also

in this key it's basically precog
 
Catbowtie said:
Based off of “maybe.” Literally. It’s a “maybe” scenario he doesn’t instantly win.
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A realistic maybe scenerio is not the same as a normal maybe scenerio if something has at least decent odds of happening it would make sense to consider it a possibility

Do you want me to list moments where Yuta doesn't lead with cursed speech?
Catbowtie said:
Skilled swordsman, not H2H.
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He has his sword here per SBA
Catbowtie said:
Again. You’re saying he can win, but not telling us how. You’re pointing us towards advantages Tanjiro has and says those in of themselves are win conditions, which they are not.
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Huh?! 💀

Didn't I literally just summarize how he could win a couple of minutes ago???

Catbowtie said:
Yes, Tanjiro has RPL, better skill, and a higher AP. I’m not denying that. I’m saying that those wouldn’t mean they give him a win when Tanjiro himself would not choose to decapitate to win and rather try to knock out to win (straight up wouldn’t work).

Tanjiro in-character doesn’t use a sword to try to decapitate. The BEST you would get is defending himself from Yuta’s strikes, or completely forgoing the sword in favor of punching.
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So uhh let me just clarify something...it dosen't matter weither or not tanjiro would in character choose to fight yuta bare handed...SBA exists and would just force tanjiro and yuta into a circumstance where tanjiro will use his sword anyway with the intent to win if he wants to or not
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
So uhh let me just clarify something...it dosen't matter weither or not tanjiro would in character choose to fight yuta bare handed...SBA exists and would just force tanjiro and yuta into a circumstance where tanjiro will use his sword anyway with the intent to win if he wants to or not
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Dude.

No it would not.

Tanjiro spawns in with a sword because of SBA.

Tanjiro senses Yuta is a human.

Tanjiro decides not to use his sword because swords are deadly and Tanjiro doesn’t want to kill a human to win. Will still try to box Yuta to knock him out to win.

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
his enhanced senses literally give him ESP

  • Extrasensory Perception (Able to sense the presence of others and malicious intent, this can be used to differentiate humans and demons, determine how strong someone is to a certain extent or detect an enemy in the vicinity.)
Not only that but also

in this key it's basically precog
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Unless the extent of the detection allows him to basically see the outline and tell when and where shes trying to grab him and not just sensing her general position im unconvinced.

And his esp is based on malicious intent not smell, so he wont be able to precog rika.
 
I should also clarify that SBA makes it to where neither characters are protected by social norms or a just cause

Tanjiro choosing not to fight yuta with a sword because yuta is a civilian counts as a just cause so there's that too
 
Jaynic1 said:
Unless the extent of the detection allows him to basically see the outline and tell when and where shes trying to grab him and not just sensing her general position im unconvinced.
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Which ties into what I said about it being precog in this key
Jaynic1 said:
And his esp is based on malicious intent not smell, so he wont be able to precog rika.
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ur ignoring the second part completely

He can straight up predict her movements, he'd notice something is trying to bare hug him and dodge or use water breathing to knock her back or something
 
Catbowtie said:
Dude.

No it would not.
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yes it will
Catbowtie said:
Tanjiro spawns in with a sword because of SBA.
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ok
Catbowtie said:
Tanjiro senses Yuta is a human.
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cool
Catbowtie said:
Tanjiro decides not to use his sword because swords are deadly and Tanjiro doesn’t want to kill a human to win. Will still try to box Yuta to knock him out to win.
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State of mind: In character, but will attempt to win the battle. Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other. This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma.
Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences. The characters will assume their opponents have not been forced into battle. They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances. Furthermore, the situation is assumed one where the opponents are not protected by social norms or consequences, such as being a civilian protected by law.

tanjiro decides to use his sword because he dosen't give a flying f*** whether yuta is human, he wants to win
Catbowtie said:
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
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SBA flat out puts them in a circumstance where they fight to win at their best, thats what i'm trying to say
 
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
How is bro gonna smell a spirit 😭
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It's not a spirit exactly, it's something made from negative emotions

he can straight up smell malicious intent therefore he'd sense her since that's a huge component of what she is

We're also not gonna act like Rika wouldn't have malicious intent while trying to go for the grab, since in character she basically has this against anyone who's a threat to Yuta.
 
Jaynic1 said:
You misunderstand me, his precog is based on smell not malicious intent which is what his esp is based on.
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No both his esp and his precog come from his sense of smell (granted he has a second form of esp thats different but we aren't using that here)

Enhanced Smell & Clairvoyance (Can recognize and smell things normally impossible, such as the smell of the demon who killed his family years after the event or the intention of others. Can smell what kind of person someone is, their feelings and, to an extent, how strong they are)

His smell can detect feelings, how strong an enemy is, intentions, etc, it's literally a second form of esp unique to him
 
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Would Tanjiro know for sure Yuta is a human? He literally radiates and oozes negative emotions, and his passive aura freaks people the **** out just from walking into a room.
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Plus Cursed Spirits in general (Which includes Rika) radiate a fear-inducing aura that renders people unable to move. Which should remind Tanjiro of Battle Spirit from a Demon (Which he resists, so he'll be fine from that). Not to mention Yuta's techniques will resemble Blood Demon Arts more than a Breathing Style. Plus Yuta can also regenerate with RCT, which resembles the healing of a Demon. Something humans can't do in KNY.

So Tanjiro mistaking Yuta for a Demon is fully a possibility imo.
 
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