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Man of steel
Hulk Smash
New 52 Superman vs Hulk (High 5-A)
Use Massively Hypersonic Rating for Hulk
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Superman vs Hulk
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Man of steel
Hulk Smash
New 52 Superman vs Hulk (High 5-A)
Use Massively Hypersonic Rating for Hulk
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Why are you using MHS Hulk in order to fight New 52 Superman who is FTL in combat?
And for Round 2, going by the calcs that put them on their level, Hulk is over 927 times stronger than Superman. And has his insane Regenerationn plus resistance to atom manipulations/transmutation.
Superman's advantage in speed can't really make up for his lack of a way to put him down for good and getting instantly one shot if Hulk ever lands something.
This does not seem like a fair match up.
And for Round 2, going by the calcs that put them on their level, Hulk is over 927 times stronger than Superman. And has his insane Regenerationn plus resistance to atom manipulations/transmutation.
Superman's advantage in speed can't really make up for his lack of a way to put him down for good and getting instantly one shot if Hulk ever lands something.
This does not seem like a fair match up.
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The only way Superman wins is with a dip in the Sun in ether round, which I have faith he'll do in both rounds so I give him the win for both rounds unless it's not allowed.
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I'm pretty sure we're not to assume Superman can get nearly 1000x stronger and jump tiers Sun Dipping unless he has an actual feat/reliable statement that support Sun Dip amping him that heavily.
Which I do not think that is not the case.
Unless we're to take into account him staying for extremely extended periods of time like what he did in the One Million storyline, which in that case I believe starts to count as prep time.
Which I do not think that is not the case.
Unless we're to take into account him staying for extremely extended periods of time like what he did in the One Million storyline, which in that case I believe starts to count as prep time.
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In that case Hulk stomps, though I know 15 minutes in earth's Sun makes him 3X stronger so for him to get about 1000 times stronger it would take him 3.5 days.
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Super is still about 20x faster
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Hulk for reasons above. Even speed can last only so long as an advantage. Bruce is gonna end up with a lucky hit.
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@Bruce The speed advantage doesn't matter if Hulk is 1000x stronger and can not be permanantly put down due to his massive regen and resistance to atom hax.
Along with the fact that in character (even if he were willing to kill) Superman isn't going to immediately go for the blitz and will likely try engaging him in combat first off, resulting in an instant one shot.
And for the most part from the large amount of threads I have read bringing up this topic, chip damage via speed advantage isn't typically accepted.
I'm not sure about Round 1. But Round 2 is a stomp match in my opinion and I might close this if that one isn't removed or if I am not reasonably convinced it's somehow fair.
Along with the fact that in character (even if he were willing to kill) Superman isn't going to immediately go for the blitz and will likely try engaging him in combat first off, resulting in an instant one shot.
And for the most part from the large amount of threads I have read bringing up this topic, chip damage via speed advantage isn't typically accepted.
I'm not sure about Round 1. But Round 2 is a stomp match in my opinion and I might close this if that one isn't removed or if I am not reasonably convinced it's somehow fair.
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Hmm no wonder ken vs jota thread seemed weird when they pulled out the whole 1 million punches that are multi city block level could kill ken despite ken having town level durability I was confused a lot after reading that thread whether to think x amount of punches equates to x amount of power or that not matter how may punches character a does if their attack potence is drastically lower then character b durability then character a will never hurt character b.
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Well I personally believe chip damage due to speed typically results in highly inflated/inconsistant values.
But my opinion aside I've seen many other VS threads and even upgrade attempts where this notion's been rejected, so I'm probably not alone.
So if that's not getting accounted for, then sadly Hulk stomps.
But my opinion aside I've seen many other VS threads and even upgrade attempts where this notion's been rejected, so I'm probably not alone.
So if that's not getting accounted for, then sadly Hulk stomps.
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I agree with Ryu on this, R2 is probably a stomp.
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Don't know how this would affect the match, but these two have canon knowledge on each other (at least for PC Supes)
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R1 - tied
r2 - Hulk since he is much stronger
r2 - Hulk since he is much stronger
Hulk on both rounds due to massive strengh and Regenerationn
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Superman one shots the hulk . Both rounds
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I'm removing Round 2 all together. It is quite evidentally a stomp.
I am still uncertain about Round 1, I guess I will keep it up. But if a staff member thinks it's a stomp they are more than free to close it or ask me to.
I am still uncertain about Round 1, I guess I will keep it up. But if a staff member thinks it's a stomp they are more than free to close it or ask me to.
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Supes could always BFR Hulk into space. It can' be that hard.
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Superman one shots the Hulk . This should be closed . Any superman vs Hulk battles is a mismatch for the hulk . Hulk can't contend with superman's speed and hulk strength feats aren't quite supes level . Superman solos army of the hulks at the same time
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Calm Hulk yeah but not enraged hulk
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Dude, check their profiles, Hulk and Supes are realtively equal power-wise with enraged Hulk being stronger
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Power-wiseWeeklyBattles said:
Enraged Hulk >> Post-Crisis Superman >>>>> Calm Hulk >> N52 Superman
Speed Wise
Post-Crisis Superman >> High-End Hulk >> N52 Superman >> Low-End Hulk
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^This
Edit: Just saw the mistake of my previous comment, my bad
Edit: Just saw the mistake of my previous comment, my bad
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@Themanwholaughs I request that you please stop the downplay.
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I'm not downplaying .Hulk doesn't have any feats ( enraged or non enraged ) comparable to superman besides vague power sclaing from other characters .Superman doesn't even need vague powerscaling to beat the Hulk . Most of his feats dwarfs the likes of Thor and hulk at the same time in almost every department . One punch would knock the Hulk in to the orbit . Even WWHulk needed the spaceship to get back in to the earth .RadicalMrR said:
BFR is the Hulk's worst enemy . Therefore he loses to superman everytime on any given day
Regarding the sundipping . There is no where it mentioned about 15 minutes and 3x stronger . Superman moved the warworld empowered by imperiex energy against the thrusters at imaginable speeds .
And Superman even in new 52 hypermetabolizes one hundred and forty gigawatts of solar energy every moment .
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/miscellaneous/WaynesClue.jpg
Superman doesn't even need sundipping to beat the hulk . Superman is vastly stronger then the Hulk . He could simply grab him in to space near the sun and atomize him on atomic level .
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Please go by their profiles if you feel they are wrong make a thread about it.
Here is the best feat for the Hulk we are using.
Here is the best feat for Superman (Post-Flashpoint)
Here is the best feat for the Hulk we are using.
Here is the best feat for Superman (Post-Flashpoint)
Superman's Abilities & Powers
Gamma Radiation/Energy Manipulation and Emissio
Astral Form Perception
Underwater Breathing
Adaptation to Hostile Environments
Superhuman Leaping Ability
Resistance to Psychic Control
Regenerative Healing Factor
Transformation
Superhuman Strength
Prolonged Longevity
Superhuman Speed
Superhuman Stamina
Superhuman Durability
... Some of these powers (for both partys) will obviously be usless in this fight. However I think that Hulk is going to take the win, but superman would most likely not be killed, only run away.
- Superhuman strength
- Superhuman speed
- Superhuman senses (including telescopic vision, x-ray vision, superhuman hearing, microscopic vision)
- Invulnerability
- Superhuman breath[38]
- Flight (initially enhanced jumping, super-leaping)
- Vocal abilities, including ventriloquism
Gamma Radiation/Energy Manipulation and Emissio
Astral Form Perception
Underwater Breathing
Adaptation to Hostile Environments
Superhuman Leaping Ability
Resistance to Psychic Control
Regenerative Healing Factor
Transformation
Superhuman Strength
Prolonged Longevity
Superhuman Speed
Superhuman Stamina
Superhuman Durability
... Some of these powers (for both partys) will obviously be usless in this fight. However I think that Hulk is going to take the win, but superman would most likely not be killed, only run away.
Dude, Superman lost to Hulk on that DC vs Marvel thing
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I'm not sure that counts since we don't use crossovers as a reliable source of information.
Here's what the official rules say:
"Do not use crossovers between different franchises for scaling character statistics. Not only are they almost never a part of canon continuity, in the off chance that they are canon, the crossover will almost always have the respective power levels of franchises adjusted in relation to each other."
Here's what the official rules say:
"Do not use crossovers between different franchises for scaling character statistics. Not only are they almost never a part of canon continuity, in the off chance that they are canon, the crossover will almost always have the respective power levels of franchises adjusted in relation to each other."
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Actually Superman won, but it was due to fan votes. Superman's won nearly all his fights against the Hulk in crossovers.Sigma the Terminator of Purple Monsters said:
I think hulk simply hold his breath and jumps back from the moon or some asteroid, regen-strengh is a dangerous combination, even more with this big green guy
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The chance of him hitting the moon or some asteroid is really low. Space is mostly empty. If he gets thrown out of orbit, there isn't much he can do to come back.Sigma the Terminator of Purple Monsters said:
BFR to space is op against bricks that can't fly. Hell, Boros would have beaten Saitama if the moon wasn't conveniently in that exact place.
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