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Superman Upgrade?

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TeenAngel101

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Please excuse me of not knowing how comic scaling works even when I've been on this wiki as long as I have, but I have seen a few things that makes me wonder of a slight Superman upgrade.

Unlike previous threads who try to upgrade Post-Crisis Supes to Low 2-C, the upgrade I'm proposing is a little lower at 4-A. The reason for this are the following feats.

Survives the implosion of a Sun-Eater:https://m.imgur.com/a/48Qjd

Which Superman states is the size of a nebula (pretty sure most all feats regarding nebulas are 4-A):https://m.imgur.com/SF9SrB6

Absorbs enough Anti-Sunlight to vaporize half the Milky-Way galaxy:https://m.imgur.com/a/aHR4A

Destroyed the Galactic Golem:https://m.imgur.com/a/Vl9NQ

A being comprised of many planets and stars:https://m.imgur.com/a/IFIbf

Survives another red-sun eaters detonation that is 50 times more powerful than Keplar's Supernova:https://m.imgur.com/a/5fpnT

Survived attacks from the Void Hound:https://m.imgur.com/a/ZvaG2

Which destroyed 10 Star Systems in a test drive (Destroying a Star System is Multi-Solar System level. I.E. Archie Sonic):https://i.imgur.com/2gREOpX.jpg


Not only that, but Wonder Woman is also able to harm and take several blows from Ares Post-Crisis avatar:https://m.imgur.com/a/TzL1h

Who is straight up 4-A:https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ares_(DC_Comics)

So what do you guys think? Is this enough to upgrade Post-Crisis Superman to 4-A or not?
 
Anonimoe7875 said:
Wouldn't a Sun-eater would be 4-C?

Either way i think it's reasonable too
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The Sun-Eater itself is the size of a nebula, Superman survives it's implosion, which sends him light years away and through time.
 
Wonder Woman should be comparable to Ares's avatar, who is 4-A. And of course Superman is comparable to her as well. I also vaguely recall him Absorbing enough solar radiation to destroy half a galaxy, but I think that was the noncanon Superman (One Million version), but I could be wrong about that. Actually, I think that came from the Mageddon encounter; which is where he got his Multi-Stellar lifting feat. 4-A Post-Crises Superman might be a possibility afterall.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Wonder Woman should be comparable to Ares's avatar, who is 4-A. And of course Superman is comparable to her as well. I also vaguely recall him Absorbing enough solar radiation to destroy half a galaxy, but I think that was the noncanon Superman (One Million version), but I could be wrong about that. Actually, I think that came from the Mageddon encounter; which is where he got his Multi-Stellar lifting feat. 4-A Post-Crises Superman might be a possibility afterall.
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I posted the feat of him absorbing enough Anti-Sunlight to vaporize half the Milky Way. And it's definitely canon, as it took place during the Mageddon incident.
 
Yeah, I mentioned in that same post; the Mageddon incident is definitely canon.
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
The dozens of counter feats that he has....
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The same can be said for Marvel heroes. It's like saying Captain America can't be 8-A because he caps at 9-B. That is literally ridiculous. How do you know he caps at 4-B? He has consistent 4-A feats in the blog above and is comparable to Wonder Woman, who fought and took hits from Ares Post-Crisis avatar, who is ranked 4-A on this very wiki.
 
Like Gargoyle said, Solar System feats are pretty low-end for Superman. He tanks a 50 FOE explosion while weakened by red-sunlight.
 
Marvel is ranked alot differently the dc, since when does cap cap (lol) at 9-b? He always was 8-a, we just couldn't find the time to do proper feat research on him. The ares feat is pis, and going by that logic supes should be on the same leve as darksied seeing how he fought him to...
 
TeenAngel101 said:
Like Gargoyle said, Solar System feats are pretty low-end for Superman. He tanks a 50 FOE explosion while weakened by red-sunlight.
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He also got knocked out by a plantery collusion....but that's not her nor there..m
 
Yeah, they only would scale to his avatars/physical embodiments; obviously not their True selves.
 
I don't mean to disagree, but:

The Sun Eater explosion is 4-B, it's *50 a Keplar Supernova

Void Hound is 4-B, there's no proof it blew up all 10 Star Systems at once

Need more context on Galactic Golem

Ares always casually wrecks Wonder Woman and does not try to kill her.

Maggedon is legit a 4-A+ feat but it's the only one.
 
Uh huh, since when does darkseid=avatars?

Not equal, stronger.

Ever since Darkseid existed.
 
Yeah, the Star Systems he destroyed one by one; forgot to mention that. And oh yeah, Wonder Woman isn't as powerful as Ares, but isn't she able to arm Ares's avatar? Or does she have a similar concept to a Kryptonite weapon? Looking as Ares's profile, I see some kind of Amulet mentioned as one of his weaknesses. And yeah, Maggedon might be an outlier for the time being.
 
TeenAngel101 said:
Even if he destroys the Star Systems one by one, destroying A SINGLE Star System is 4-A.
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it depends on the size I believe. A star system can be 4-B as 3-C but I think 4-A seems to be correct but in context, I do not know, ask Matt or other person who knows better than me
 
Yeah, depends on the size is one. Also, destroying a star system, piece by piece isn't quite 4-A either.
 
Only nitpick I have is that the Galactic Golem's body is not to scale i.e. they are not realistically sized planets and stars. At least from what I have heard. 4-A Superman sounds fine though.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
I don't mean to disagree, but:
The Sun Eater explosion is 4-B, it's *50 a Keplar Supernova

Void Hound is 4-B, there's no proof it blew up all 10 Star Systems at once

Need more context on Galactic Golem

Ares always casually wrecks Wonder Woman and does not try to kill her.

Maggedon is legit a 4-A+ feat but it's the only one.
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this
 
I agree with Mr Schroeder it is far more consistent to rate Supes as a 4-B as the 4-A stuff doesn't quite line up
 
@Matthew

So what do you think that we should do here?
 
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