Super Sonic vs Superman (Post-Flashpoint)

[The_Smashor]

Super Sonic now has a lower end and that is unbeliveably stupid since the emeralds should always be superior to the Final Egg Blaster but whatever. Might as well use it while it's here.

Rules: Speed Equalized. Battle takes place in space. Otherwise SBA. Both are bloodlusted.



Sonic: 4 (MYHERO, ShakeResounding, GlaceonGamez471, Maverick Zero X)
Superma:

Inconclusive:

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

What's Superman's AP? 44 yottatons or 14 ninatons?

 

[The_Smashor]

I honestly don't know.

 

[Dust_Collector]

I'd assume he's 14 ninatons since he has the + tacked onto his stats.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

If it's the first I could argue Sonic.

The second, Superman one-shots.

 

[The_Smashor]

Imma bloodlust both. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I'm not sure if the Sonic cast (barring Shadow) can contend with any decently powerful 5-As. 7 Yottatons is pretty weak.

I'd recommend pitting them against 5-B+ characters. I think they can fight 5-A Toei characters though since they also aren't terribly high into the Tier:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/Toeiverse_Piccolo_feats

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

If Sonic is bloodlusted then he outhaxes. Time stop + Violet Void or Indigo Asteroid GG.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Well, if it's bloodlusted, things get a lot more interesting.

 

[The_Smashor]

oh

i made a stomp again.

woops

OR DID I?!

 

[MYHERO]

I mean if Superman has the AP advantage, then it isn't a stomp.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

@Maverick The scaling is Super forms = Perfect Dark Gaia > Base Dark Gaia = Casual 7.2 yottatons.

Still doesn't come close to ninatons though.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sonic vs Queen Zeal?

 

[ShakeResounding]

A kinda ridiculous AP advantage at that

 

[MYHERO]

Well Sonic FRA above I guess.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Since this is bloodlusted...

Superman has no time (ha) to do anything to Sonic, as he uses Chaos Control then tears him apart with Violet Void or Indigo Steroid. Basically Sonic FRA.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Hedgehog FRA

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Sonic fra

 

[The_Smashor]

Sorry it took so long to add the votes. Basically I found out the Sharpened Volcano Fragment that The Pyro uses is made of actual lava but as it turns out it's not enough for even an increase in AP.

 

[Quantu]

Sorry, but bloodlusted is a haxstomp.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Sonic for reasons above, and when was SS able to use wisp powers? Not that I have a problem with it (I actually think it's really ******* cool), I just wanna know where it comes from.

 

[MYHERO]

Nowhere lol. It's just that nothing dictates that Sonic can't use it while in super form.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Super Sonic retains all abilities of his base form.

Plus there's the Super Sonic DLC in Sonic Forces.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Isn't it the Avatar using the wisps is Forces?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic and Shadow use them too. Specifically, the white wisps to fill the boost gauge.

 

[BlastX]

I guess he can now if Forces is any indication, but he couldn't use them Colors, Generations and Lost World (he turned back to normal in the last two)

 

[MYHERO]

Sorry, but bloodlusted is a haxstomp.

Would it?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Hardly a stomp when your opponent just has to hit you once.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Dude that sonic much a stomps Superman.

we let Dismatch your Thread.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Sorry, but... What?

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Sonic FRA

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

well guess Right im voted sonic Fra.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i guess sonic FRA

 

[ShakeResounding]

Sonic: 8 (HERO, ShadowWarrior, Jimboy, Redgrave, Maverick, Zamasu, Glaceon, myself)

Superman: 0

Grace begins.

 

[Elizhaa]

This match is stomp after analysis. Sonic's Hax stomp since Superman (Post-Flashpoint) does not have resistance to hax like Time stop + Violet Void or Indigo Asteroid GG as @Shadow stated. Super Sonic's Ap is At least 5-A to Superman (Post-Flashpoint)'s 5-A. The AP difference is around 6,000 difference, well beyond the qualification for OneShot which over x7.5. Superman's Ap is around 44.8 yottatons and Super Sonic's is nearly High 5-A.

Tier	Level	Energy in Conventional Terms	Energy in Tonnes of TNT Equivalent	Energy in Joules	High End to Low End ratio
5-A	Large Planet	2.7 Yottatons to 16.512 Ninatons	2.7x1024 to 1.651x1028	1.13x1034 to 6.906x1037	~6111.5x

 

[MYHERO]

0__0 jesus

Sonic slaughters Superman that it isn't even funny.

Oh wait nevermind you meant Superman.

 

[Wokistan]

Yeah this seems like a mismatch. Bloodlusted sonic haxstomps, and unbloodlusted he's too weak physically to really do anything.

 

[ShakeResounding]

I feel like this happens a lot with a bloodlusted Sonic.

@Wokistan Wanna close this?

 

[Wokistan]

sure