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You trying to say something like Kaioken times 1 and a half or some number in between 1 and 2 is a thing?
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Super Holy Water... again (Dragon Ball)
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Nullflowerblush
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Somethin' like that.
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Actually.
Amplifying Ki is a general ability, and Goku says that the Kaio-ken amplifies all of his Ki within his body for an instant, and he describes Kaio-ken x2 as, erm, twice the Kaio-ken. Odds are that Kaio-ken is like the Kamehameha, and from Kaio-ken x2 onward, Goku's Ki itself is multiplied beyond its limits.
Amplifying Ki is a general ability, and Goku says that the Kaio-ken amplifies all of his Ki within his body for an instant, and he describes Kaio-ken x2 as, erm, twice the Kaio-ken. Odds are that Kaio-ken is like the Kamehameha, and from Kaio-ken x2 onward, Goku's Ki itself is multiplied beyond its limits.
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This is largely irrelevant, though.
The point is that two-times gaps and gaps of even smaller value are stomp-worthy in Dragon Ball.
The point is that two-times gaps and gaps of even smaller value are stomp-worthy in Dragon Ball.
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I concede on that front, though.
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Kaioken = kaioken x 2?
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Kaioken doubles the user's PL
Kaioken x2 doubles the user's PL
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They also need to get into their heads that stomps gaps are not universally accepted across all media. One author might think a 50% increase is enough for a stomp, for example
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Okay, what counter arguments are there against the multiplier explicitly being two-times, instead of vaguely being three or higher based on how English speakers interpret the English language?
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Bump, i can't think of any, unfortunelly.
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bump
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Pretty much everyone agrees.
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another thing I want to add is that Cymbal is currently scaled above post-Karin Training Goku, and Tambourine is noted to be several times stronger. 8-B 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai perhaps?
There is also this statement for Piccolo Jr, which would make the 5-Cs in late DB and early Z slightly stronger.
But yeah, I agree with the revision.
There is also this statement for Piccolo Jr, which would make the 5-Cs in late DB and early Z slightly stronger.
But yeah, I agree with the revision.
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bump
DivineAura44
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I agree with the downgrade via the statements being non-contradictive.
(This is why we should have just agreed with at least 2x)
(This is why we should have just agreed with at least 2x)
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It seems good
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Null always gets things done, but doesn't finish them.
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I was gonna apply it, but I came across scans from the Super Exciting Guide, and I haven't gotten around to adding those in yet.
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Luffy I'm NGL, you might be the most unintentionally funny member on the wiki
. Null does finish his work, this is wild.
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Leviticus 19:11, last phrase
Nullflowerblush
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Wait, I'm thinking of the Turtle School thread.
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Makes sense, so this one is already done, bro?
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Can anyone apply this and close this?
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Does it have to be a mod that needs to apply the changes?
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As long as the profiles are open, anyone can apply, but you have to organize them correctly.
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