Sun Wukong Revision

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Pre boost, he should be 5-A for moving the moon, which is where The Terrarian and He man were from that same feat.

Post boost, how does a 4th century Tao script work into a 16th century buddhist one? Especially since it's just a random throwaway statement. They also didn't know how large the milky way was, so I'd say 4-A.

And as a Buddha, that statement is an example to describe how old Buddha is, not an ability of Buddha. So he should just be 2-C

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

"How does a 4th Century Tao Scripture apply to a 16th Century Buddhist Fiction"

How does a 1000+ BC Jewish text (Genesis) applies to Modern Christianity?

Why do almost all authors apply to Greek Myth frm Homer to Hesiod?

It's the same structure. The text applies both to age and to what universes are to him.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"How does a 4th Century Tao Scripture apply to a 16th Century Buddhist Fiction"
How does a 1000+ BC Jewish text (Genesis) applies to Modern Christianity?

Why do almost all authors apply to Greek Myth frm Homer to Hesiod?

It's the same structure. The text applies both to age and to what universes are to him.

Please prove they considered it still valid, first. Second, it's still a throwaway statement.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Also, making the Earth tremble and shake doesn't really sound like a 5-B feat. Similar feats were only calc'd at around Small Island - Large Island.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Moon moving is only above moon level if we can calculate a speed in order to find kinetic energy. Otherwise it's only at the GBE of the moon.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

What Blahblah said. It usually doesn't end up as 5-A either, I've done a few calcs where it only ended up as 5-B.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Also, making the Earth tremble and shake doesn't really sound like a 5-B feat. Similar feats were only calc'd at around Small Island - Large Island.

Agreed.

What Blahblah said. It usually doesn't end up as 5-A either, I've done a few calcs where it only ended up as 5-B.

I think "possibly 5-B" would be fair since we don't know the speed.

 

[Blahblah9755]

You can't assume it to be anything above moon level without a calc. His moon level rating should stay as is.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

You can't assume it to be anything above moon level without a calc. His moon level rating should stay as is.

@Mattthew how big did the ancience chinese think the moon was?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

We use actual Moon size for mythological moons.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

We use actual Moon size for mythological moons.

1) Answer my question please.

2) Then why don't we do the same with stars? Because the people of those times didn't believe they were that size. Same standard should apply for moons.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

We do use the same thing for stars.

Wait... No we don't. Apollo is only planetary.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Downgrading Wukong to just Moon level seems okay.

I don't know how big the moon was in Chinese Myth, unless there was a lack of statents, we assume Moon Sized.

We don't assume Stars are real stars because almost no cultures thought the Earth was round and spinned around the Sun. Only some Hindu Texts have that. We take them as being at least Moon Sized.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Alright so we have a conclusion for pre boost. What about post boost, pre Buddhahood?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Well, he did seem to annihilate the armies of Heaven, including embodiments of Constellations and whatnot.

The thing is that both the Universe and the Milky Way, and often Heaven are all kinda equated to be the same thing in various Chinese Texts, so High 3-A is still reasonable.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Judging by the justification on his page, "At least 4-A, likely/possibly High 3-A" post boost seems fine. Buddhahood stuff seems alright from a glance.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Even if the 2-B turns out to be wrong, Low 2-C is a given. Being one with all existence and all.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Agreed.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Even if the 2-B turns out to be wrong, Low 2-C is a given. Being one with all existence and all.

I'd say 2-C. How large did they think the multiverse was?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

We either go with the 10^125 universes statement, or just one universe. Although Buddhism does have like... 30 Heavens and 35 hells.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

We either go with the 10^125 universes statement, or just one universe. Although Buddhism does have like... 30 Heavens and 35 hells.

That statement was being used as an example of how old Buddha is. I think 2-C is good for him as a Buddha.

 

[Cryps145]

sorry but The text applies both to age and to what universes are to him

 

[Cryps145]

Also wtf, the statement of "he is one with all existence" should put him at tier 1...

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

There are several different interpretations of "existence" in fiction.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

In this case it refers to a small multiverse

 

[Lanens]

Someone please tell me when i can find that statement about buddha encompasins such vast number of universes. canon buddha really has mastery over a trichiliocosm

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Bump