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Summer 4 Servant Upgrades

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Bunnytoria: Forcefield Creation (Was capable of deploying invisible shields), Aura (Her presence alone will make someone feel as if the atmosphere is pushing them dow), Pocket Reality Manipulation (Her casino is a pocket reality), Law Manipulation (Hokusai can only harm the Swimsuit Swordmasters if she has a challenger letter, and we don't, Artoria automatically negates all possible damage she does to each of the masters)

Lancer Raikou: Explosion Manipulation and Air Manipulation (Was able to create explosion and tornado with Mama Laser and Mama Tornado respectively)

Ritsuka: Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Able to resist summer Melt's brainwashing)

Mephistopheles: Spatial Manipulation (Capable of compressing space)

Keys and Scaling
Tenma Zerksashi is just another name of Zero Musashi. Makes sense because Tenma Zerksashi is just regular Musashi's result of endless training manifested and sperated from her. So she should have two keys with kinda the same rating as Zero Musashi. I'll explain why kinda.

Bunnytoria should also have different key for summer 4, she is considerably stronger than any of the servants in the event, and also has some stuff Merlin gave her. Hokusai at the end of Summer 4 should also have a different key, she kept up with Tenma Zerksashi and said to be gotten considerably stronger. Unless you want infinite speed summer servants then Siegfried, and we don't want that.

So the 6-C part of Zero Musashi should be changed when scaled to Summer 4 Artoria. At the beginning of the Summer 4, Musashi said that they need to go 6v1 including Ritsuka to stand a chance against her. So she is comparable to the force of 5 Servants, which is High 6-C, and it is not a bad rating since even Aloha Servants who aren't even close to Bunnytoria stomps the team when they take them head-on. You might raise an eyebrow because it's been said that Bunnytoria can't defeat Zerksashi so why they scale to each other, but that's because her class is a Ruler and Zerksashi just refuses to be defeated by anyone who isn't a Saber. So Summer 4 Bunnytoria, Zero Musashi, Tenma Zerksashi, End of Summer 4 Hokusai, and likely Infinity Sasaki and Suigetsu Yagyu should be:

Unknow, likely Large Island level (Artoria is comparable to the forces of 5 Servants and able to stomp any Servants that she can come across, also superior to Numeral of the Saints Gawain boosted even further by Aloha Shirt)
 
Bunny Artoria:

Other previous abilities. Summoning (Capable of summoning Ehangwen, the legendary castle of King Arthur as a giant ship), Law Manipulation (Create laws in the casino and even throughout the whole Las Vegas that can only be bypassed by the permission of Artoria herself), Creation, Reality Warping, Sealing (Warped Las Vegas into a singularity, also as a cage for Tenma Musashi to seal her until the end of the story singularity. Created her own casino, also likely the other casinos)

Pengu Melt

Animal Manipulation (Able to manipulate aquatic animal like penguin through her Leviathan's Authority, possibly far more than just normal animals), Water Manipulation (Is the cause of the surging sea that current around Las Vegas, that is dangerous for even Servants to try and cross through. Her Noble Phantasm is an Anti World tsunami that crushed the singularity at once in the end of the story). Mind Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Law Manipulation (made the visitors in her casino into greedy state where they spend their coin without stopping. Made a law in her casino that whoever lost all their coin in her casino to be absorbed into the casino and then has their EXP and Level absorbed continously.) Reality Warping (Helped Artoria and Musashi in the creation of Singularity. Stated that she would turn Las Vegas into something similar to Seraphix Singularity were she was able to complete her plan in absorbing people).
 
This seems uncontroversial to apply, yes.
 
If we have already agreed that Tenma Musashi is the same as Zero Musashi, shouldn't we just make Berserker Musashi a part of Saber Musashi's profile? Any extra equipment she has can just be added as optional equipment
 
No, not really. She still is different from Saber version in the same way with other Summer versions, it's just so happens that they are comparable.
 
Well, other summer versions are usually more distinctive than Berserker Musashi is, in fact, its basically outright stated they are the same.

I've actually had issue with the summer variants being their own profiles when in most cases they are just a modified form of the normal versions, not different people or different instances of summoning, but we can talk about that later.
 
Tell me here when I should close this.
 
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