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Dawg I said third degree burns AT BEST. If a guy with Peak Human stamina and also no heat resistance can take her attacks then he definitely can.
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Sukuna's Vessel (Yuji Itadori) Vs The Anomaly (Iris) (3-1-0)
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Fallen_Angelicx
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Won't be limited to 3rd degree burns after long exposure, it'll surpass it and become potent enough to kill Yuji due to overtime heat exposure and smoke. Keep in mind this goes on for however long Iris can cast spells directly at Yuji's direction
That simply means the Player has stamina feats against fire.... While Yuji doesn't.... That's not a defeater.
And so? Heat exposure is far different from anything he has took. It can't be assumed he does the same here especially without a resistance or feat against fire on a long period.
And how's that a defeater? She can fight for long periods, as long as she needs without feeling fatigue which makes it bad news for Yuji as he can't outlast his opponent in battle while getting his skin constantly burnt off his body;
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Alright at worst its probably 2nd which still cause intense burns, Yuji’s got zero feats of even doing something remotely like this. You guys are overselling his stamina. The things Yuji did could reasonably be done by adult men in war, him potentially being hit even a second time by these flames would leave any human unconscious and near death. The only person we’ve even seen fight on from burns was Nanami, Yuji isn’t at his level, and the thing is this Yuji has terrible ce control so he’s not even gonna be able to reduce the damage done.
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Does anybody else want to vote then?
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Wasn't Fearsome Womb Yuji still 9-A (I'm assuming the 8-C to 8-B scaling comes from Kyoto Goodwill Event)
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Do you still see any 9-A on the profile? No? Then he doesn't have it anymore.
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Damn I didn't know it worked like that
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FW Yuji was already facetanking hits from a grade 2 curse. For comparison, a grade 3 sorcerer is already 8-C and Megumi who is a grade 2 sorcerer was nearly oneshotted by the same grade 2 curse Yuji fought and that was back when Yuji couldn't amp himself with cursed energy yet.
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I don't know if I can change the keys this late into the thread but it seems like Ravenna Iris (Who is 8-B and likely higher) would be a better matchup for 1st key Yuji
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You'll have to reset the votes then because new arguments will be brought up.
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I see, guess I'll consider it
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Aside from this, do I have to do anything like specifying a rematch or redo in the thread title when changing the keys of both contestants?
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Nope.
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Alrighty, I'll do Pre-Chapter 37 Yuji Vs Ravenna Iris then
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Okay, so what's Iris's AP? Yuji with cursed energy should be 58.4 tons by scaling to Todo.
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Oh yeah there's about a ~3.35x AP gap between Iris and Yuji, she's only got around 17.4 Tons or so
I was mainly considering her large scale attacks such as this feat and this feat as her main methods of approach in this fight. These attacks are very big and they do inflict a good amount of knockback so I reckon Iris could keep Yuji at bay, and Yuji doesn't have Fire Resist so I'm pretty sure he'll be pretty damaged after tanking a few of these.
Additionally, she uses Flare Magic which has relatively low base damage output, but specializes in Damage Over Time to make up for it. The more attacks she hits, the more damage Yuji's gonna take from the fire, so after a few blasts I think Yuji would be hurting severely.
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Yuji does have Superhuman stamina but he doesn't really have feats related to tanking extreme heat Pre-Chapter 37, I think it may be similar to what was discussed above where mentally he can keep going but physically his body might start breaking down.
Cursed Energy Reinforcement would be pretty useful here, not sure how it'll interact with being burned though since Nanami and Naobito were both pretty screwed after encountering Jogo (Which to be fair, Iris' Flare Magic is nowhere near as potent as Jogo's Disaster Flames at this point in the story, but I thought I'd bring it up anyway)
As for Yuji picking up objects to throw at Iris, I can only really think of pebbles in the snow or if he decides to try and rip a chunk of ice out of the ground or surrounding landscape, not many big rocks at Frostmil (At least not where he encounters Iris)
Cursed Energy Reinforcement would be pretty useful here, not sure how it'll interact with being burned though since Nanami and Naobito were both pretty screwed after encountering Jogo (Which to be fair, Iris' Flare Magic is nowhere near as potent as Jogo's Disaster Flames at this point in the story, but I thought I'd bring it up anyway)
As for Yuji picking up objects to throw at Iris, I can only really think of pebbles in the snow or if he decides to try and rip a chunk of ice out of the ground or surrounding landscape, not many big rocks at Frostmil (At least not where he encounters Iris)
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Ah, carry on then
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Shouldn't Yuji resist fire manip since he survived being near an enraged Jogo and being inside his Domain?
Yuji is 3.35x stronger here with gives him a lot more leeway to power though.
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I mean, it's not on his profile so I don't think we can use it? Even then, there's the argument of Gojo using Infinity to protect Yuji.
Yeah he should be durable enough to power through the impact of the flames. The issue for him here is the heat and fire burning him as I mentioned above.
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His profile is still getting some additions iirc so its prob gonna be added eventually. Yuji was getting still getting effected by the heat so Gojo wasn't using Infinity to protect him.
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I see. Well in that case I guess she's got the knockback going for her, plus her range advantage to keep him at bay. The fight may drag on for a lot longer than I expect if Yuji does have considerable fire resist.
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Okay, had to get on my PC for this but here's the full comment.
Indeed. Jogo can reduce people to ashes with what is basically his sheer presence alone and an actual casual attack from him can vaporize metal so having your body stay intact after getting blasted by him is certainly a feat. While Yuji's heat resistance may not be on the same level as grade 1 sorcerers, Iris's flames are so much weaker that his reinforcement should be able to at least mitigate their damage.
Yuji can throw a fricking car. Anything would be a weapon in his hands since he can imbue them with cursed energy to deal more damage. Also, do consider the effects cursed energy has on the body and mind of a non-sorcerer.
Cursed energy further reinforces the user's body and becomes even stronger when they're experiencing negative emotions. Iris has to deal with a 3.35x AP gap against a guy who considers being impaled as not much of a problem and that's assuming he's going to get hit that many times due to how dodgy he is and the fact that he can analyze her attacks by reading the flow of her cursed energy (yes, even regular people has low amounts of cursed energy as long as they can experience negative emotions). Yuji also isn't limited to hand-to-hand. He's more than willing to pick up and throw objects in the environment at his enemies.
By the time of his fight with Todo, Yuji should already be somewhat comparable to grade 1 sorcerers evidenced by the fact that he can fight Todo who IS grade 1. Even if he hasn't reached that level, a sorcerer's control over cursed energy improves rapidly during high-stakes events so Yuji will quickly get there since he's already pretty close.
Indeed. Jogo can reduce people to ashes with what is basically his sheer presence alone and an actual casual attack from him can vaporize metal so having your body stay intact after getting blasted by him is certainly a feat. While Yuji's heat resistance may not be on the same level as grade 1 sorcerers, Iris's flames are so much weaker that his reinforcement should be able to at least mitigate their damage.
Yuji can throw a fricking car. Anything would be a weapon in his hands since he can imbue them with cursed energy to deal more damage. Also, do consider the effects cursed energy has on the body and mind of a non-sorcerer.
He can jump 4 stories high and I don't think you realize that Yuji can completely overpower and beat down Iris if he manages to grab her. The chances of him achieving his wincon is higher than the chances of Iris being able to keep him away for that long so I'm going to vote him now.
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I'm not saying Yuji isn't deadly with his throws, he's definitely hella cracked, just that I don't know if there's much to throw where the battle takes place (Besides what I've already mentioned). I actually didn't realize that CE has Pain Manip for non-sorcerers, this would be extremely dangerous for Iris. I'll still vote for her tho since I still think she could keep him at bay long enough for her fire to take him out, but it's might pretty close imo.
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