STTGL vs pre Crises superman with the sword of superman

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

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[Soul01]

STTGL,because as the fight goes on ,he will just keep evolving to a stronger being

 

[Undylan]

STTGL,because as the fight goes on ,he will just keep evolving to a stronger being

That's very NLF for a super robot who can't go any higher then he already is.

 

[Soul01]

i don't know what NLF is ,but if the fight would go(with anti spiral) on he would just gept geting stronger

 

[孫悟空Son_Goku孫悟空]

Superman

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I honestly don't know. They seem really evenly matched, but knowing PC Superman, he'd probably have something up his sleeve. Especially after gaining psuedo-omniscience.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

keep in mind how crazily spiral energy keeps evolving

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Doesn't that run the risk of reaching Spiral Nemesis, though?

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

welp, the sttgl was over 50 billion light years big, and pure energy, yet that did nothing like collapsing the universe or something, so spiral nemesis might have been an uneeded fear or just something that simon might have found a way around (since even massive amounts of spiral power didnt cause te big crunch)

 

[Undylan]

i don't know what NLF is ,but if the fight would go(with anti spiral) on he would just gept geting stronger

It's Means No - limits fallacy. As i quote from the OBD wiki.

"This is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits (or only certain limits) then it has none (or only the ones demonstrated).

"Example: "Itachi said that no one without a Mangekyou Sharingan can defeat him. Therefore he can beat all of DC, Marvel, DBZ, and Tenchi Muyo."

So i don't see how he can go beyond universal.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

sttgl drill was over 500 billlion light year long, that is bigger than universe so it shud be able t shatter sevral universes

 

[Undylan]

sttgl drill was over 500 billlion light year long, that is bigger than universe so it shud be able t shatter sevral universes

Any poof my friend?

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

according to ttgl wiki, the guidebook says sttgl is 52.8 billion light years tall, and his srill is 10 times multiple of height, if u dont beleive me, then use pixel scaling

 

[DontTalk]

sttgl drill was over 500 billlion light year long, that is bigger than universe so it shud be able t shatter sevral universes

Bigger than the size of the Observable Universe, which is something completly different from the Universe itself. Wether the Universe is of finite or infinite size is unknown by science to my knowledge, but I believe we are using the definition of universe that is infinite as long as the given fiction doesn´t defines it differently.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

well, in fiction,i think the universe diameter is 91 or 92 billion diameters (which is considered to be diamerter of our universe)- the case of the actual universe being bigger is a different story, but the observable universe is 92 billion light years wide, and the drill is way bigger than the universe, also, the giant robot drills of ttgl (anime) can break up stuff bigger than themselves or at least influence bigger objects

 

[Undylan]

I Don't know if that makes STTLG muitlversal.

With the fact he's a low 2-C here.

 

[DontTalk]

I asked about it here about a month ago. Look at the answers from Antvasima and DarkLK. 3 dimensional size isn´t the reason STTGL is ranked as Universe Level+.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

i dont think he is multiversal, but he sure is multi uni (can destroy several normal size universes)

 

[DetectiveStrafe]

http://gurrenlagann.wikia.com/wiki/Simo You don't even need STTGL, Simon alone is more powerful than it and has infinite spiral energy and can control it if you check the wiki.It also says he can possibly be Omnipotent.Simon stomps, there is no way you can defend against a drill that's packed with infinite energy, or you can have Simon erase Superman instead.Either way Simon stomps unless you can find a feat that allows Superman to defend against infinity.

 

[Aurugermil]

That Sword of Superman is a one huge ugly looking sword.

I think STTGL can win because of its ever-evolving spiral power, while not exactly NLF tier, can makes it grow up stronger further. I would like to know why PC Supernan AP is listed as immeasurable.

 

[DetectiveStrafe]

Vs Battles sometimes doesn't put the right information and ***** stuff up.

If only they corrected some of the stuff here it would be great.

But yeah Simon or STTGL wins here.

 

[DetectiveStrafe]

Can someone give the win to Simon and close this thread now?

 

[Gemmysaur]

This looks more inconclusive than anything.

 

[LordAizenSama]

yeah, Inconclusive for me also. as this thread is now anyway theres no way it's being added as a victory or loss to anyone.

(That bump though, seriously, why?)

 

[DetectiveStrafe]

Simon pilots the STTGL though and that's a fact, if Simon just pumps infinite energy through the thing and throws an attack that has infinite power behind it, the winner is Simon.

I already proved Simon to have endless spiral energy or infinite if you check the wiki, it even says it on this wiki if you check Simons stamina it says he eventually gets endless spiral energy and has used it before in the movie when he created gurren lagann.

So STTGL wins.