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Spawn vs Arceus
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You serious?
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Spawn can interact with Arceus as he has abstract existence type one and mother of existence powers too. Also what do plates do?
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Bump
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Iirc having Type 1 AE =/= Being able to interact with it without feats here.
There's a whole tabber about them. Arceus automatically nulls whatever power the Plates have too.
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Nvm yeah he can't.
- All Conceptual Manipulators are bound by the use of the power. A character who embodies a concept cannot create, manipulate, or destroy it unless otherwise shown. A character who can create a concept cannot destroy it unless otherwise shown, and vice versa.
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Spawn can interact with mother of existence which is ae type 1. And am pretty sure he resist power null also how fast is the plates ability.
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How fast are Arceus power null?.
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Also can Arceus range affect spawn.
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Yeah, he has 2-A range
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Again, he can't yeet concepts still.
He does not on profile.
Instant powe null. But the power null derived from them is passive and stops any kind of active action.
It should be 2 layers given that Plates are above Mold Breaker, which is above Damp, which is power null.
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And BTW the power null works perfectly fine on 4D Type 1 CM given it upscales from Creation Trio True Forms.
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Spawn is omnipresent across a infinite 2-a multiverse
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Arceus also is, ig
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Perfect, then Arceus Powernull is 2 layers in 4-D, if spawns haxs are far layered than that then arceus can't powernull him
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Range is baseline... So no.. 2-A range is enough
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Its seems I have to update spawn profile.
He can destroy concept.
He has the power of the mother of existence who embodies the concept of existence and can destroy existence and all it's concept. Also the passive wouldn't work has spawn has immeasurable speed
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2 layers above baseline*
But stop talking about how Arceus nulls, let's talk about how it wins. It starts with 4D sealing which works on AE1 of CM1. Can Spawn stop that?
If that needs a CRT then do. Plus omnipresent dudes are kinda of counted as immeasurable speed here, given the size.
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Perfect that's all I wanted to know
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But it's stated to bigger than the multiverse and contains infinite multiverses. An pretty sure if it's only baseline if the multiverse weren't stated to be bigger.
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No... Range is baseline given the new standars
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Spawn is far above baseline immesurable speed probably the fastest non DC character that's immesurable speed in the wiki.
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That's dumb. How does that make any sense oh well.
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No clue. But I'll assume it does given the size.
Make a CRT ffs. Don't use stuff which isn't on the profiles.
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Don't complain to me, i'm not the one who makes the new standars
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It's stated at least 2-a could be higher. Its already accepted that's it's bigger than regular 2-a
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We don't count "likely higher" here for Tier 3 and above, given how high the gaps are from there.
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That doesn't matter, the whole range is baseline, it's not like before when arceus or madoka couldn't be interacted with because of their immense size.
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Fodder angels have immesurable speed and spawn and other top beings massively out scale them.
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Ok. So does Arceus have feat of affecting immesurable speed. Because omnipresent isn't a speed
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Unquantifiably be above immeasurable isn't relevant. Plus again, with the current profiles even a Lake Trio dude stomps.
Omnipresence on Type 9 Large Size should be comparable for pretty obvious reasons.
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Good question
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But it isn't comparable to immesurable speed because it's just a state of being.
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No, it seems that Arceus has no proof of affecting Immeasurable, just being Omnipresent doesn't mean you can affect Immeasurable without proof, as far as I can see it can only affect Infinite Speed, and Arceus itself is not Immeasurable but Infinite
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Ok, so I'll make the passive power null slide for now. Arceus still has many others forms of it anyway, given that it can actively do it too and scales from Giratina who has even against attacks. And even that's 3 layers of 4D Power Null. Plus again, how does Spawn resist Sealing, it's 4D and works again AE1 on CM1.
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If Spawn can inteact with Arceus then he'll be blitzed before anything.... OP hasn't equal the speed
