Sonic VS Madoka REDUX

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Yea, most of you would probably say Sonic stomps since he's infinitely stronger. The thing is he's 3-D, so he would still be affected.

Anyway, SBA, speed equal and both are bloodlusted

Ultra Sonic vs Ultimate Madoka

 

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Bump

 

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Bump

 

[Schnee_One]

Can Sonic actually hit a conceptual entity?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Madoka is a conceptual entity so Imma go with her...

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

5-D reality warping will get rid of Madoka. Or he can bust the multiverse. But not sure if he can do those before she erases him.

 

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Sonic: 0

Madoka: 2 (Maverick Zero X, Homu Sweet Homu)

 

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Also remember, I'm doing High 2-A vs 2-A so you might want to vote carefully.

 

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Bump

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Madoka just stands there and Sonic get burns by passive Holy Manip.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

So...Madoka?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Yep.

 

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Alright.

 

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Bump

 

[Kaltias]

Pretty sure that this version of Sonic is becoming "at least 2-A" or something like that

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Well, we can keep this going on until the downgrade. Cuz it's obvious that he would get stomped if he's 2-A.

 

[Dark_Matter557]

Ultra Sonic via conceptual manipulation that is capable of destroying the fundamental energy of its verse and that is capable of destroying an incorporeal being that manifests all the existent dreams

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

It's a stomp now since Sonic is getting downgraded.

 

[RKGenki]

>No acausality/time paradox immunity

Madoka paradoxes (if he's not killed by the passives)

 

[Kaltias]

It's so weird when tier 2 characters can't survive a paradox that i always kind of take it for granted tbh

 

[RKGenki]

Yeah, in a tier where characters bust space-time continuums like it's nothing, being vulnerable to paradoxes is kinda lame.

 

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Ultra Sonic via conceptual manipulation that is capable of destroying the fundamental energy of its verse and that is capable of destroying an incorporeal being that manifests all the existent dreams

This Sonic doesn't have Concept manip.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah, in a tier where characters bust space-time continuums like it's nothing, being vulnerable to paradoxes is kinda lame.

Especially since 4D or so beings are acasual, so it's honestly rather rare

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Especially since 4D or so beings are acausal, so it's honestly rather rare

Fixed it.

 

[Schnee_One]

Thx

 

[RKGenki]

And when it's also an almost former High 2-A it's even worse

 

[Dark_Matter557]

This Sonic doesn't have Concept manip.

Of course it has, and I have already explained why. Just say "This Sonic has no concept manipulation" will not help you in anything, let alone refute what I said

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

No, that was Post-Super Genesis Wave Sonic. I'm using Pre-Genesis Wave. And if this Sonic has it, can he do that before this happens?

Madoka just stands there and Sonic get burns by passive Holy Manip.

 

[Kaltias]

Of course it has, and I have already explained why. Just say "This Sonic has no concept manipulation" will not help you in anything, let alone refute what I said

1) Not on the page, so not valid

2) Already rejected in the CRT