Sonic Verse vs Mario Verse

[Missy0124]

both at max power

no 2-c and b characters

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

So no chaos emeralds, chaos hearts, dream stone, etc?

 

[Missy0124]

yep but the super forms that go with those are allowed

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

That makes no sense, so they are allowed? Because if the benefits that goes with weapons are incl7ded then saying theyre restricted doesn't make much sense.

Also this is just the games right? No movies, cartoons, comics, etc?

 

[Missy0124]

no archie just the sonic x and ova

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Then probably Mario, far more had and while Sonic has Illumina for a 2-B, Mario has Mario (Pure Hearts), Blumiere, Dimentio and Mr.L (Chaos Hearts), Zeekeeper, Antasma and Dreamy Bowser for 2-B.

 

[Missy0124]

archie is way to op to put in in here

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Yeah, the closest Mario has to a 2-A is dimentio and he's not.

 

[Missy0124]

exactly how bout i just take out Mario has Mario Blumiere, Dimentio Mr.L Zeekeeper, Antasma Dreamy Bowser

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

the thing is though variety will outweigh illumina so there is that...

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Then ya gotta take out Illumina too. Not exactly fair to strip one of all the powerhouses but let the other keep it.

But now that i think about it, does Mario even have a 2-C? I think they skip that tier entirely. Not sure.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i mean well....super forms are variable at low end 4-A so...it works?

 

[Missy0124]

so weapons are allowed now and no 2-c or b characters

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Hmm, now this requires a bit more thought then saying dimentio.gg.

I'll think on it.

 

[Adamjensen2030]

After debating with Metal Mario875 I've come to a conclusion that the Mario Verse wins and here's why.

Illumina IMO is not 2-B and here's why.

Also Super Dimentio solos the Sonic Verse not even Solaris stands a chance IMO.

And this is not including "The Gentle Pull" for the Mario Verse.

 

[Kaltias]

Don't use profiles from another wiki to debate here

 

[Adamjensen2030]

Don't use profiles from another wiki to debate here

Alright. In that case going by the profiles here, Super Dimentio solos with his abilities and that's not including "The Gentle Pull" and no Archie Sonic Verse included just Game Sonic Verse.

Also Metal Mario875 knows what he's talking about.

 

[Kaltias]

Tier 2-C and 2-B are banned, it's in the OP.

And until those profiles go through a CRT and are accepted, it isn't important who said it

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Did ta even read the thread adam?

 

[Noahkaismith]

Mario verse has way more hax and versatilty. I'm voting for Mario verse.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

I'm not sure on that, chaos emeralds and infinite have some decent hax.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Infinite doesn't have a profile here, right?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

So? It's the entire verse. It's everything below low 2-C. Also give it a few days, Dark will probably make one soon.

 

[Noahkaismith]

We don't use characters unless they have a profile.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ignoring speed, Rosalina should take out most of the competition, considering how Low 2-C is the highest allowed.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Oh yeah, forgot about that.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Pretty sure low 2-C is included in that Cal, unless sonic has some low 2-C i missed.

Doesn't matter Kai, this is a battle between enture franchises, its a catch all.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Pretty sure low 2-C is included in that Cal, unless sonic has some low 2-C i missed.
Doesn't matter Kai, this is a battle between enture franchises, its a catch all.

You're joking, right? Sonic himself is a low 2-C. And no, the wiki specifically states that if they don't have a profile, we can't use them. If you want to include Infinite, have someone make a profile for him.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Pretty sonic is solid 2-C.

Then we don't make verse matches, because verse matches includes the entire verse, simple as that. But since thats what's happening I'm gonna use the entirety for both verses. Otherwise close this.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Sonic is low 2-C. Check the profile for yourself. And you're being riduclous. If it's not on the wiki, we don't use it. It's a very blatant rule. This isn't a stomp, so we aren't closing it.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

I was thinking of super sonic, darkspine is something rarely brought up.

Then this isn't the two verses against each other then, which is what it is. I understand stuff like Infinite Vs. Say Vegeta, infinite has no profile so people can't work with anything there to decide. But this is a verse vs. Verse match not like 10 characters vs. Another 10 . In which case it should be closed if we cant actually debate the entirety of it.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Most of the verse is useless. I doubt Chris is gonna save the day. The team members who are relevant are on the wiki. Regardless, Super Sonic isn't 2-C.

 

[Noahkaismith]

I stand corrected, he is. Oops.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Well obviously but stuff like Infinite, various tech, star spirits, and more would be helpful but they don't got profiles, (I think).

 

[Noahkaismith]

Infinite doesn't help all too much. Most of his hax other characters have.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

I mean as a whole, he was just an example, honestly see Mario winning this still but bith sides get gimped here.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Yeah, I get that.