Son Goku (Xeno) Should be edited to be made weaker than Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super)

[ObieOrange]

Just wondering. In Dragon Ball Heroes the game we see that Xeno Goku openly states that the "other" Goku (Super Goku) is stronger than him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC4qFpwCNPY


Translation:

(Note: Capsule Corp Logo Goku is DBS Goku)

SSJ4 Goku: huff huff damn. The me over there was one step above me.

Capsule Corp Logo Goku: You look like you know about Fu. Can you tell us what's going on?

SSJ4 Goku: That's...

Fu: Hahaha! Wow! I was able to take a really interesting sample!

SSJ4 Goku: Fu! You...! I was on a time patrol. I heard that guy over there called Fu was scheming something up on this strange planet. In order to investigate that, I purposely got caught.

Capsule Corp Logo Goku: Fu, you're a bad guy, huh!

Mai: Could it be he's also involved with the disappearance of Trunks?!

Fu: Now now everyone, calm down. This prison planet is an experimental site that I made. I'm bringing in strong warriors from various points in time and space and taking samples.

Vegeta: You, I don't know what you mean by experiment, but are you telling me that you also imprisoned trunks on this planet?

Fu: Yeah, that's right! Around this time he should struggling with how to break free from here I'd say. But, if you want to leaves here, you have to collect the 7 "Special Dragon Balls." But I think that prisoner over there was handed one.

SSJ4 Goku: This Dragon Ball?

Fu: Yeah. Other prisoners have the remaining Dragon Balls. So good luck searching! Well, this is where I take my leave, see ya later!

Capsule Corp Logo Goku: Ah, hey! He really runs away quickly.

Mai: Trunks...please be safe...

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And if you want to bring the Dragon Ball Heroes anime into this, Xeno Goku at SSJ4 was fighting seemingly evenly with SSJB Goku, so Ultra Instinct would easily be able to defeat him, no?

 

[Dark649]

That SSJB Goku is from another xeno timeline where he is 2-B by being stronger than Xeno Goku, its not the regular canon since it never happened in Super that Trunks got arrested or Mai is talking with Shin and etc.

 

[ObieOrange]

Well even so, there are points in the game where Goku talks about trying to officially master Ultra Instinct, so this Goku clearly stems off of the Dragon Ball Super Goku.

Also, if this were some other iteration of Goku, he'd have some sort of label.

For example, in Dragon Ball Heroes Xeno Goku is labeled as "Son Goku - Xeno" and GT Goku is labeled as "Son Goku - GT"

But this Goku is simply "Son Goku", not some alternate Goku. So shouldn't we count this as the "main timeline" Goku? Because that's how the game labels him.

Otherwise, we'd have to create another whole Goku on the wiki that's stronger than the rest.

 

[Dark649]

Xeno Prison Arc SSB Goku is not the same as regular Super canon SSB Goku.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

No, just no. Cross scaling between canon and non-canon is strictly forbidden; and Xeno's version of Ultra Instinct is 2-B while Dragon Ball Super's version is only Low 2-C. So that's that. Same reason Buu's canon Manga and Anime filler counter parts are 4-B and 4-A respectively. We do not scale one to the other or vice versa.

 

[ObieOrange]

I'm sorry I must've missed something here, Xeno Goku can use Ultra Instinct? Since when? And why isn't it posted on his page?

And I'm not trying to argue anything or break any rules, I'm just confused. If we don't make DBS Goku that strong, then why don't we make the new Goku a thing on VSBattles, because if not we're just ignoring a new Goku iteration.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

He didn't, but it sounds like it was reference from the words you mentioned. But still, my point that the current statistics are good where they are at.

 

[ObieOrange]

Oh, well, Xeno Goku doesn't posses Ulra Instinct, only DBS Goku and, I guess we'll just call him SuperHeroes Goku for now, does as well. But not Xeno Goku.

And now I feel like I'd have to make a new thread on why we should make "Super Heroes Goku"